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Why Number ?

Why in our industry do we say 2 No or 2 number rather than just two?


2 No Sockets , 2 No Luminaires etc etc.


what`s wrong with just plain 2 or 4 or 99 or whatever?


I have worked in a couple of light engineering shops.

When making components they used the term "off".

2 off blue widgets, 5 off red widgets etc etc.


Firm A always recorded on their inspection history card the quantity in finished components.

Therefore example, a ring of metal was produced and at some stage it was cut into 12 components.

The entire history qty at each stage of operation was "12 off".

So 3 rings at start was 36 off for the entire process.


Firm B, however, recorded the quantity as 3 off until the split into segments then it became 36 off.


I witnessed a confusion and a great big polarised row when an inspection who worked for firm A left and then worked at firm B.

He followed the practice he had been taught (36 off at each stage from start to finish) .

In fact, as the Firm B in this particular job was producing components on behalf of Firm A then it also became a bit of a row between firms too.


Anyway, why 2 No or 2 off and not just plain old 2 ?


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  • In my view it is to ensure that we know we are talking about a qty.


    The suffix No., X, off, tells us it is the number required rather than some part of a product number or size, especially when hand written by me.


    As to confusion about different practices I have always seen the number refer to the physical number of what ever size the item is so 3 X 1M becomes 30 X 10cm when cut into smaller bits.


    I can still remember at school, >60 years ago, my physics and maths teachers telling us and sometimes shouting at us "what units are you talking about? Elephants?"
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  • In my view it is to ensure that we know we are talking about a qty.


    The suffix No., X, off, tells us it is the number required rather than some part of a product number or size, especially when hand written by me.


    As to confusion about different practices I have always seen the number refer to the physical number of what ever size the item is so 3 X 1M becomes 30 X 10cm when cut into smaller bits.


    I can still remember at school, >60 years ago, my physics and maths teachers telling us and sometimes shouting at us "what units are you talking about? Elephants?"
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