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Two phase three wire

BS7671 shows diagrams of  system types and earthing arrangements in the UK. Even a person fully converstant with the jargon would wonder why its sister version ROI have added two additional  diagrams. maybe it is just up the pole or ground mounted supply transformers that they are  shown for information 


Chapter 3 Fig 31.3 of I.S. 10101: 2020 National Rules for Electrical Installations shows these diagrams if you + +  and move across to centre of computer makes it easy to read.


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The NEC (National Electrical Code) the bible of the electrical construction industry USA,  has a nice description- Polyphase circuits. Circuits running on AC and having two or more, interrelated voltages, usually of equal amplitudes, phase differences, and periods, ect. If a neutral conductor exists, the voltages referenced to the neutral conductor are equal in amplitude and phase. The most common version is that of three-phase, equal in amplitude, with phases 120' apart.

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  • It is not clear to me exactly what they mean by "two phase three wire"


    True two phase, with 90 degree phase angle between phases ? Never common and believed extinct in the UK or in Ireland.  BTW in a true two phase system, the neutral currents do not cancel each other out, the neutral wire needs to be larger than the phase conductors.


    Two phases and the neutral derived from a standard 3 phase 4 wire system. 120 degree phase angle between phases.


    Or do they mean what should be more correctly called SINGLE phase 3 wire, usually 230/240 volts between either line and the earthed neutral and with 460/480 volts between the two lines. Used in areas with only a single phase two wire HV supply.

    Also still existing in some urban areas including West London.

    This is also the norm in the USA for domestic services at 120/240 volts.
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  • It is not clear to me exactly what they mean by "two phase three wire"


    True two phase, with 90 degree phase angle between phases ? Never common and believed extinct in the UK or in Ireland.  BTW in a true two phase system, the neutral currents do not cancel each other out, the neutral wire needs to be larger than the phase conductors.


    Two phases and the neutral derived from a standard 3 phase 4 wire system. 120 degree phase angle between phases.


    Or do they mean what should be more correctly called SINGLE phase 3 wire, usually 230/240 volts between either line and the earthed neutral and with 460/480 volts between the two lines. Used in areas with only a single phase two wire HV supply.

    Also still existing in some urban areas including West London.

    This is also the norm in the USA for domestic services at 120/240 volts.
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