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Running conduit in very shallow screed

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Hi,


I am preparing the kitchen in my flat for a rewire and need to run cables for 2 x ovens plus dishwasher, washing machine, fridge freezer etc. 


The flat has solid ceilings and   floors and CU is on opposite side of the flat from the kitchen so running cable is a challenge. When we rewire the rest of the electrics, the sockets and lights are likely to go either behind coving or chased into plaster, but this is not really feasible for the kitchen cables. 


I’m thinking my best option is to go through the floors. I recently dug a massive chase for a gas pipe (which in retrospect should have been made bigger and I could have run the cables through that). In doing so I discovered that the screed is only 30mm thick and delaminates from the underlying concrete really easily with a good whack from an SDS. The concrete is obviously MUCH harder work to get through (a few days work with a heavy duty saw plus annoying the neighbours and filling the flat with dust). So what I want to do is cut the screed with a grinder to 30mm deep to make a channel and run the cable in that. 


I’ve got a couple of ideas of how to do this but not sure what is permitted - is it ok to run cable at such a shallow depth? - or what would be best. 


Option 1 - SWA cable laid straight in the channel and mortared over. Obviously will never be coming out so difficult to replace without pulling the floors up but the easiest to install. 


Option 2 - 20mm high impact pvc conduit with 3 x singles in each run. I’m assuming that because there will be 4 x 90degree bends in the route that these cables will also be impossible to remove once installed but will at least be protected by the conduit from damage while the mortar is applied/sets. I’m also assuming that even at a very shallow depth this conduit will be ok to walk over once set in mortar with flooring over the top. 


Option 3 - something completely different. 


Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I do want to make clear I’m not actually planning on doing the wiring work, I just want to get cables in situ for an electrician to be able to work with at a future date. I just want to do this bit ahead to avoid digging up the floor again at a later date. 


Thanks,


Patrick
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    Thanks again for everyone’s replies. 


    I hadn’t considered a separate CU in the kitchen, that’s probably a good idea presuming that it can be fitted inside a cupboard i.e cut the back out of a tall oven housing unit and fit to wall inside top of cupboard. Or rather do that in reverse as units not currently in place. 


    With regard to conduit, I think I’ll try and avoid that altogether as I wasn’t aware it had to be all in place before cables pulled. My original plan was to construct it around the cables before fixing into place as a whole unit. The number of bends makes me think it’s pretty unlikely I’m going to get the cables pulled if conduit laid in advance. 


    So single SWA cable buried to additional CU probably the best option for me personally. I will discuss with electrician as soon as I can get someone in. 


    Thanks agaim for all the replies.
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  • Former Community Member
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    Thanks again for everyone’s replies. 


    I hadn’t considered a separate CU in the kitchen, that’s probably a good idea presuming that it can be fitted inside a cupboard i.e cut the back out of a tall oven housing unit and fit to wall inside top of cupboard. Or rather do that in reverse as units not currently in place. 


    With regard to conduit, I think I’ll try and avoid that altogether as I wasn’t aware it had to be all in place before cables pulled. My original plan was to construct it around the cables before fixing into place as a whole unit. The number of bends makes me think it’s pretty unlikely I’m going to get the cables pulled if conduit laid in advance. 


    So single SWA cable buried to additional CU probably the best option for me personally. I will discuss with electrician as soon as I can get someone in. 


    Thanks agaim for all the replies.
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