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Cable current rating advice

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Hi all, I would like to verify something with respect to current carrying capacity of cable. Specifically vehicle single core DC circuits.


Looking at 16mm wire not worrying about voltage drop. manufacturers are ratting this at 110A and on a forum I subscribe to people have been advised 125A is ok.


The cable is rated at 70 deg as shown on the suppliers site linked below.

16mm supplier


Am I wright that this comes under 

Table 4D1A


Single-core 70°C Thermoplastic Insulated Cables, Non-Armoured, with or without Sheath


Reference Method C (clipped direct) This will be between battery to battery not in any conduit or insulation


So is rated as 87A


I would be interested in your advice as it has been several years since I used these tables
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  • You are potentially looking at two different scenarios here. The tables in BS7671 are based around a 40 year service life at full load. Automotive products are usually rated for 3000hrs (about 4 months continuous use). For commercial vehicles different values may be used.


    When a cable carries a current the ohmic heating causes the temperature to rise. This may take some hours to reach it's maximum. The degredation of the insulation due to the maximum temperature sets the published service life.


    If the cable carried a higher current for a shorter time it will not reach it's maximum temperature. The starter cables on a typical vehicle probably only carry current for 30 seconds every hour. Thermal degradation of the insulation is not going to be a problem. Volt drop is probably the key factor for selecting the size. The traction motor cables on an electric truck will only carry full rated current when climbing a gradient, that will probably be for only a few minutes followed by a decent (a decent is interesting as if regenerative braking is used the cables will still be under quite a high load) or level running at a lower current allowing the cables to cool.


    Under given conditions a 16mm2 wire may be suitable for 125A or even 150A but the conditions would have to be specified.
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  • You are potentially looking at two different scenarios here. The tables in BS7671 are based around a 40 year service life at full load. Automotive products are usually rated for 3000hrs (about 4 months continuous use). For commercial vehicles different values may be used.


    When a cable carries a current the ohmic heating causes the temperature to rise. This may take some hours to reach it's maximum. The degredation of the insulation due to the maximum temperature sets the published service life.


    If the cable carried a higher current for a shorter time it will not reach it's maximum temperature. The starter cables on a typical vehicle probably only carry current for 30 seconds every hour. Thermal degradation of the insulation is not going to be a problem. Volt drop is probably the key factor for selecting the size. The traction motor cables on an electric truck will only carry full rated current when climbing a gradient, that will probably be for only a few minutes followed by a decent (a decent is interesting as if regenerative braking is used the cables will still be under quite a high load) or level running at a lower current allowing the cables to cool.


    Under given conditions a 16mm2 wire may be suitable for 125A or even 150A but the conditions would have to be specified.
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