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Light sockets

Former Community Member
Former Community Member
Something that has puzzled me for years.


Bayonet cap and Edison screw light bulbs can be removed without tools thus exposing potentially live terminals and presenting a distinct shock hazard.  made worse by the fact that you often need to stand on a chair to remove the bulb.   There are millions of these installed yet the regs seem quite happy with the situation.
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  • I am afraid that I cannot understand why you were given a job for which you were neither qualified nor suitably trained. To do so would appear to me to be contrary to the "Electricity at Work" regulations, and therefore illegal! However, stranger things have happened. I do sympathise that sometimes one can be given jobs which may not obviously be quite complex, but the opposite can also be true. I was once given a rack full of electronics and told to get it through the EMC regulations (which were new at the time) simply because I knew a lot more about RF and EMC in general than anyone else, and the job was close to impossible anyway. After most of a complete redesign, it did pass, but they were not at all happy about the cost and complexity of what was required!


    In reality, lampholders have never been a great source of danger for a couple of good reasons: They are normally full of lamp, and it is normal for most people to turn the lamp off before removal because otherwise, one used to get serious burns! The greatest danger has been removed by the change to LED lamps, they are no longer glass and therefore cannot easily be broken exposing live parts. Now, I bet you didn't think of that!


    The whole EICR thing does frighten many people with codes and a report which most cannot understand. I have tried to explain why your Sister's one may be worse than it looks in the other thread. However as your PAT experience, the quality of many needs serious improvement. I think the idea that EICRs treat dangers in an "everyone is an idiot" way is inciorrect, it should not be that way, that is what happens when idiots get to carry them out!


    Here is one for Mike: OK BNC, bayonet connector (which it is) but so is a C connector, just bigger!
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  • I am afraid that I cannot understand why you were given a job for which you were neither qualified nor suitably trained. To do so would appear to me to be contrary to the "Electricity at Work" regulations, and therefore illegal! However, stranger things have happened. I do sympathise that sometimes one can be given jobs which may not obviously be quite complex, but the opposite can also be true. I was once given a rack full of electronics and told to get it through the EMC regulations (which were new at the time) simply because I knew a lot more about RF and EMC in general than anyone else, and the job was close to impossible anyway. After most of a complete redesign, it did pass, but they were not at all happy about the cost and complexity of what was required!


    In reality, lampholders have never been a great source of danger for a couple of good reasons: They are normally full of lamp, and it is normal for most people to turn the lamp off before removal because otherwise, one used to get serious burns! The greatest danger has been removed by the change to LED lamps, they are no longer glass and therefore cannot easily be broken exposing live parts. Now, I bet you didn't think of that!


    The whole EICR thing does frighten many people with codes and a report which most cannot understand. I have tried to explain why your Sister's one may be worse than it looks in the other thread. However as your PAT experience, the quality of many needs serious improvement. I think the idea that EICRs treat dangers in an "everyone is an idiot" way is inciorrect, it should not be that way, that is what happens when idiots get to carry them out!


    Here is one for Mike: OK BNC, bayonet connector (which it is) but so is a C connector, just bigger!
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