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201 series of regs , notification, and the term domestic

Alcomax
I know it is not clear cut. But where say a pub has live in accommodation and if they share the same metered supply, any notifiable works are subject to the dreaded part p**.


BS7671 has a series of regs ........201, sometimes, especially applying to "domestic" premises; like 421.1.201 .To my mind a pub a described above is commercial, but of course works on the wiring is subject to the P.


But if you have one DB in the clearly commercial part, supplying all final circuits in the building, I do not see some ......201's applying to say a replacement DB if it is not actually in the what P describes as a domestic dwelling. I except there is still notification requirement, as I have always understood it.




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    Normally the dot 201s are not specifically domestic - though that example is, 

    421.1.201 Within domestic (household) premises, consumer units and similar switchgear assemblies shall comply with BS EN 61439-3 and shall:
    i.have their enclosure manufactured from non-combustible material, or
    ii.be enclosed in a cabinet or enclosure constructed of non-combustible material and complying with Regulation 132.12.
    NOTE 1: Ferrous metal e.g. steel is deemed to be an example of a non-combustible material





    What it does show is a departure from the numbering that might be expected from following the harmonised standard .(from CENELEC in the form of doc 60364, mostly. ) BS7671, and the other EU countries national standards all follow this, except where they do not,

    So there is no equivalent of our 201s to be found in the German or French wiring regs, and they in turn have a few things we do not (like sockets in bathrooms)


    Part P only requires you (In England, Wales Scotland differ) to notify wiring with 60cm of a bath or shower, and complete new circuits, and consumer units.

    However part P does apply to the whole pub

    " art P applies to electrical installation ....

    <snip of lots of other cases>
    . in business premises (other than agricultural buildings) connected to the same meter as the electrical installation in a dwelling – for example shops and public houses below flats. "


    So if you add a complete new circuit the pub, it is strictly notifiable under part P,

    421.1.201 does not apply however.

    Mike.


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    Normally the dot 201s are not specifically domestic - though that example is, 

    421.1.201 Within domestic (household) premises, consumer units and similar switchgear assemblies shall comply with BS EN 61439-3 and shall:
    i.have their enclosure manufactured from non-combustible material, or
    ii.be enclosed in a cabinet or enclosure constructed of non-combustible material and complying with Regulation 132.12.
    NOTE 1: Ferrous metal e.g. steel is deemed to be an example of a non-combustible material





    What it does show is a departure from the numbering that might be expected from following the harmonised standard .(from CENELEC in the form of doc 60364, mostly. ) BS7671, and the other EU countries national standards all follow this, except where they do not,

    So there is no equivalent of our 201s to be found in the German or French wiring regs, and they in turn have a few things we do not (like sockets in bathrooms)


    Part P only requires you (In England, Wales Scotland differ) to notify wiring with 60cm of a bath or shower, and complete new circuits, and consumer units.

    However part P does apply to the whole pub

    " art P applies to electrical installation ....

    <snip of lots of other cases>
    . in business premises (other than agricultural buildings) connected to the same meter as the electrical installation in a dwelling – for example shops and public houses below flats. "


    So if you add a complete new circuit the pub, it is strictly notifiable under part P,

    421.1.201 does not apply however.

    Mike.


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