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201 series of regs , notification, and the term domestic

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I know it is not clear cut. But where say a pub has live in accommodation and if they share the same metered supply, any notifiable works are subject to the dreaded part p**.


BS7671 has a series of regs ........201, sometimes, especially applying to "domestic" premises; like 421.1.201 .To my mind a pub a described above is commercial, but of course works on the wiring is subject to the P.


But if you have one DB in the clearly commercial part, supplying all final circuits in the building, I do not see some ......201's applying to say a replacement DB if it is not actually in the what P describes as a domestic dwelling. I except there is still notification requirement, as I have always understood it.




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    So if you add a complete new circuit the pub, it is strictly notifiable under part P, 421.1.201 does not apply however.

    Thanks, my thoughts exactly. The 201 thing was a generalisation, as one of them is "sometimes" ie  421.1.201.

    Note the "household" specific, as it does with luminaires in "household".


    I knew this time was a coming. We are five years on from 2015 and now having to deal with the consequences of the various dictats of scheme inspectors personal preferences and varying specious manufacturers advice; you will note the manufacturers advice specifically around 2015/6 was that these new all metal boards were for TN systems only, as provided in their documentation. The "advice", has been amended in the literature, but in a more weasel form; essentially it is up to you; are you feeling lucky?


    Yes this pub is TT. Yes, I do not like a complete absence of ADS upstream of the DB. But that is what some installers have been told to do, but in this instance they could have taken a view 421.1.201 did not apply and have the 100mA s type upstream of the metal. It could so easily have been done.
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    So if you add a complete new circuit the pub, it is strictly notifiable under part P, 421.1.201 does not apply however.

    Thanks, my thoughts exactly. The 201 thing was a generalisation, as one of them is "sometimes" ie  421.1.201.

    Note the "household" specific, as it does with luminaires in "household".


    I knew this time was a coming. We are five years on from 2015 and now having to deal with the consequences of the various dictats of scheme inspectors personal preferences and varying specious manufacturers advice; you will note the manufacturers advice specifically around 2015/6 was that these new all metal boards were for TN systems only, as provided in their documentation. The "advice", has been amended in the literature, but in a more weasel form; essentially it is up to you; are you feeling lucky?


    Yes this pub is TT. Yes, I do not like a complete absence of ADS upstream of the DB. But that is what some installers have been told to do, but in this instance they could have taken a view 421.1.201 did not apply and have the 100mA s type upstream of the metal. It could so easily have been done.
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