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Broken lens on PIR security light EICR code

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Hi 

 

Working on a property today and one of the issues was a PIR light not working, this was resoled by bending the lamp connections. But I noticed the lense on the on the PIR was old and cracked, trying to make my mind up between C2 and C3. Owners are selling soon and the property hasn't been touched for 16 years and will need some renovation by the next owners.

The light is at about 3m and out of reach, earthed and protected by an RCD. It's a halogen light therefore presumably the PIR is switching 240V and the PIR is at the bottom, I suspect if any water does enter it will run out before getting to the electrics. The electrics certainly seemed to be working, I didn't dig too deep as I suspect it would have lead to the lense breaking.

Looking at NAPIT code breakers below the crux of the matter is, is it likely to lead to potential danger. Given the above I am leaning towards it being unlikely to cause potential danger and a  C3.

What are your opinions?

 

Thanks

 

Alan

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    mapj1: 
     

    So the plastic enclosure is cracking failing, but as yet you cannot get a finger in, C3.

    Once it has failed and the plastic flakes are on the floor and live bits are exposed to touch C1.

    Does it ever pass through C2 on the way form one state to the other ?

    I think it might.

    Mike

    PS treat the sensor when exposed bits as ‘live’ this is FELV, there is not isolation of the relay supply and electronics  from the mains.

     

    The assumption of actually achieving C2 or C1 being, of course, that the lens itself is a barrier or enclosure providing basic protection, or is an integral part of the [often relatively “low”] IP rating of the product itself.
     

    I think there may be products out there that can exist safely with cracked lenses for many years …

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    mapj1: 
     

    So the plastic enclosure is cracking failing, but as yet you cannot get a finger in, C3.

    Once it has failed and the plastic flakes are on the floor and live bits are exposed to touch C1.

    Does it ever pass through C2 on the way form one state to the other ?

    I think it might.

    Mike

    PS treat the sensor when exposed bits as ‘live’ this is FELV, there is not isolation of the relay supply and electronics  from the mains.

     

    The assumption of actually achieving C2 or C1 being, of course, that the lens itself is a barrier or enclosure providing basic protection, or is an integral part of the [often relatively “low”] IP rating of the product itself.
     

    I think there may be products out there that can exist safely with cracked lenses for many years …

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