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WHY CANNOT AN ELECTRICAL ENGINEER BE A QS.

It would appear that the IET EAS document now requires a QS to be an NVQ qualified electrician.

In the same way a building surveyor needs to be professionally qualified person who does not need to be a bricklayer but needs to know how bricks should be laid why cannot a professionally registered electrical engineer with an 18th Edition Qual. and C and G 2391 with maybe a Level 4 2396 design qualification be a QS?

The so called competent person schemes do not register electricians. They only register “enterprises” which have to have a single assessed person who is responsible for the technical standards in the company. It would appear a spotty faced youth with an NVQ 3 with minimal experience can be a QS but a Charted Engineer with decades of experience cannot be?

Before you ask I was the NICEIC PDH and QS for my own company for 15 years up until last year.

I would be interested in your views?

0 David Stone over 3 years ago

Tut, tut, John, that is the question you are not allowed to ask and an FIET too!!!
I am not allowed to be a QS either, but we could run rings around most who are. Perhaps it is simple fear?
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0 John Peckham over 3 years ago

Precisely David!
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0 Sparkingchip over 3 years ago

Can't you claim grandfather rights? ?‍♂️ (hard hat on)
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0 David Stone over 3 years ago

Andy, Who are you calling a Grandfather? That's not the point!
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0 Sparkingchip over 3 years ago

davezawadi (David Stone):

Andy, Who are you calling a Grandfather? That's not the point!

The other fellow.
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0 Former Community Member over 3 years ago

John Peckham:

It would appear that the IET EAS document now requires a QS to be an NVQ qualified electrician.

Hi John, any chance of a link?

This has been proposed and withdrawn several times since part p schemes came about.
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0 Former Community Member over 3 years ago
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0 Former Community Member over 3 years ago

The above message is one example of a 2012 similar topic, with all due respect, what is the problem with getting an nvq3?
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0 Sparkingchip over 3 years ago

John Peckham:

It would appear that the IET EAS document now requires a QS to be an NVQ qualified electrician.

It doesn’t does it?
The stumbling block is “Auditable evidence of relevant historical industry recognized electrical installation competency-based qualifications” not not having a NVQ.
https://electrical.theiet.org/media/2349/eas-effective-from-1st-september-2020.pdf
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0 Sparkingchip over 3 years ago
Right in the middle of Covid NAPIT told me they were taking A1.2 off my registration because I had never had a non-domestic installation assessed.
Just think that one through:
I joined NAPIT to be enrolled on the competence scheme to self certify domestic electrical installations under Part P, so that has been the type of work that I have completed that they assessed for the last sixteen years.
For fifteen years I have been considered capable of completing electrical work in all types of electrical installations and it has said so on my NAPIT card.
I was told about this during Covid when arranging a site visit was difficult, but also I was told retrospectively, I wasn't actually told we need to see a non-domestic installation this time so that you can keep A1.2 on your card, I was told during my assessment.
I can still do non-domestic electrical work, but cannot use NAPIT branded certificates or the logo on associated paperwork.

Who gets the “blame”? The authors of the IET EAS specification.
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