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WHY CANNOT AN ELECTRICAL ENGINEER BE A QS.

It would appear that the IET EAS document now requires a QS to be an NVQ qualified electrician.

In the same way a building surveyor needs to be professionally qualified person who does not need to be a bricklayer but needs to know how bricks should be laid why cannot a professionally registered electrical engineer with an 18th Edition Qual. and C and G 2391 with maybe a Level 4 2396 design qualification be a QS?

The so called competent person schemes do not register electricians. They only register “enterprises” which have to have a single assessed person who is responsible for the technical standards in the company. It would appear a spotty faced youth with an NVQ 3 with minimal experience can be a QS but a Charted Engineer with decades of experience cannot be?

Before you ask I was the NICEIC PDH and  QS  for my own company for 15 years up until last year.

I would be interested in your views? 

 

 

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  • I have only done six EICRs this year, I have lost all enthusiasm where they are concerned, they just seem to be hassle.

    Last year I was working away doing them, but it got to the point where it felt like I was doing an exam every time I did the paperwork with the schedule of inspections becoming a multiple choice exam to be completed as quickly as possible whilst scoring 100%.

    Some weeks last year I sat down on a Friday or Saturday with eight reports to write up one after another, as I made notes onsite then sat at my desk to do the actual reports on my PC using the certificate software. That was never a job I planned to have or wanted.

    I have just emailed a report I did for a long standing customer, I actually wired the original installation back in 2008 for him, he said the these EICRs must be good business for me and was genuinely surprised when I did not respond enthusiastically.

    As I asked above, who really wants to be a QS?

    Meanwhile there’s a kitchen fitter I spoke to altering a kitchen installation adding sockets and outlets without any training or qualifications and I know that none of his work will comply with the regs or be certified. Apparently the house may be let, so it will be up to someone else to go in to prepare an EICR and say it cannot be let without replacing the old fuse board and adding RCD protection.

    But of course alterations and additions to electrical installations in kitchens are no longer notifiable in England under Part P, because the are so simple anyone can do it. 

    Who’s the mugs, the electricians who bend over backwards to comply with restrictions placed on them or the guys who just crack on utter regardless? 

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  • I have only done six EICRs this year, I have lost all enthusiasm where they are concerned, they just seem to be hassle.

    Last year I was working away doing them, but it got to the point where it felt like I was doing an exam every time I did the paperwork with the schedule of inspections becoming a multiple choice exam to be completed as quickly as possible whilst scoring 100%.

    Some weeks last year I sat down on a Friday or Saturday with eight reports to write up one after another, as I made notes onsite then sat at my desk to do the actual reports on my PC using the certificate software. That was never a job I planned to have or wanted.

    I have just emailed a report I did for a long standing customer, I actually wired the original installation back in 2008 for him, he said the these EICRs must be good business for me and was genuinely surprised when I did not respond enthusiastically.

    As I asked above, who really wants to be a QS?

    Meanwhile there’s a kitchen fitter I spoke to altering a kitchen installation adding sockets and outlets without any training or qualifications and I know that none of his work will comply with the regs or be certified. Apparently the house may be let, so it will be up to someone else to go in to prepare an EICR and say it cannot be let without replacing the old fuse board and adding RCD protection.

    But of course alterations and additions to electrical installations in kitchens are no longer notifiable in England under Part P, because the are so simple anyone can do it. 

    Who’s the mugs, the electricians who bend over backwards to comply with restrictions placed on them or the guys who just crack on utter regardless? 

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