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WHY CANNOT AN ELECTRICAL ENGINEER BE A QS.

John Peckham

It would appear that the IET EAS document now requires a QS to be an NVQ qualified electrician.

In the same way a building surveyor needs to be professionally qualified person who does not need to be a bricklayer but needs to know how bricks should be laid why cannot a professionally registered electrical engineer with an 18th Edition Qual. and C and G 2391 with maybe a Level 4 2396 design qualification be a QS?

The so called competent person schemes do not register electricians. They only register “enterprises” which have to have a single assessed person who is responsible for the technical standards in the company. It would appear a spotty faced youth with an NVQ 3 with minimal experience can be a QS but a Charted Engineer with decades of experience cannot be?

Before you ask I was the NICEIC PDH and  QS  for my own company for 15 years up until last year.

I would be interested in your views? 

 

 

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    Yes, but it is still supervision, though token  . It is the way it has always been . It is a box that is ticked , and the enterprise takes the risk and reward. Mostly it is reward, so the lowest common denominator is set. That is what the market wants based on lowest price. Of course, in the splendid isolation of not being at the coal face, it is easy to be critical of what is a trading reality for electricians.

    Simply, most employers cease any semblance of supervision when the apprenticeship finishes, deeming them “ qualified” when they are paid full electrician wage.  The employer wants best value.

    This is not to be critical of the aspiration of the OP, I am stating the reality. It is a view I tried to force to nth degree 20 years ago, then we ended up with part P that entrenches what IMO is a deceit. The area engineers know it, but it is not their fault, all they can do is some form of damage limitation.

     

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    Yes, but it is still supervision, though token  . It is the way it has always been . It is a box that is ticked , and the enterprise takes the risk and reward. Mostly it is reward, so the lowest common denominator is set. That is what the market wants based on lowest price. Of course, in the splendid isolation of not being at the coal face, it is easy to be critical of what is a trading reality for electricians.

    Simply, most employers cease any semblance of supervision when the apprenticeship finishes, deeming them “ qualified” when they are paid full electrician wage.  The employer wants best value.

    This is not to be critical of the aspiration of the OP, I am stating the reality. It is a view I tried to force to nth degree 20 years ago, then we ended up with part P that entrenches what IMO is a deceit. The area engineers know it, but it is not their fault, all they can do is some form of damage limitation.

     

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