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Roll up! Roll up!

lyledunn

So they are all at it, NICEIC, IET, even the training organisation I tutor for! Only £199 plus vat will bring you up to speed with the “major”developments about to be rolled out in Amendment two. Emails shot out to prospective clients in the electrical industry who have been persuaded, nay, brainwashed, into thinking that they can’t be without the critical information contained in every cough and splutter of a change to BS7671. For certain we have to keep on our toes about technical issues but the oligarchs don’t need to ram their hands into our pockets at every opportunity.
No one needs a dedicated course for the changes. There will be plenty of free information in technical magazines and places like YouTube. Keep your money, the way things are going, you’ll need £199 to fill the van with diesel!

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  • Lyledunn,

    Aye very good!! Remember no need to do any training whatsoever, just make sure that you are happy that you can comply with Reg 16 EAWR 1989.

    Lets hope it wasnt a BS7671:2018+A2:2002 ( One of the changes) issue that caused the Fatality or Fire etc on one of your future jobs! 

    We all have a choice as consumers, training etc from external independents as to how long and how expensive and value for money the training updates maybe, or self teach ourselves. Some CPD can no doubt be thrown into the equation as well.

    GTB

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  • Lyledunn,

    Aye very good!! Remember no need to do any training whatsoever, just make sure that you are happy that you can comply with Reg 16 EAWR 1989.

    Lets hope it wasnt a BS7671:2018+A2:2002 ( One of the changes) issue that caused the Fatality or Fire etc on one of your future jobs! 

    We all have a choice as consumers, training etc from external independents as to how long and how expensive and value for money the training updates maybe, or self teach ourselves. Some CPD can no doubt be thrown into the equation as well.

    GTB

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  • in reply to GTB

    Interesting that NONE of these people should KNOW what is in amdt2.  It is supposed to be secret to JPEL/64 and the BSI.

    I want the leakers found and thrown out, all of them. They are not honourable and therefore cannot be trusted. All the relevant people operate on a condition of secrecy. This is really serious, I am disgusted, Mr Chairman!

  • in reply to GTB

    It appears that all building fires, where the real cause is unknown, are blamed on "an electrical fault".

    Z.

  • in reply to GTB

    No disagreement with you GTB. Training is an essential aspect of competence but it needs to be worthwhile. My contention is that some organisations that package convenience training use  BS7671 as a perennial cash cow. The industry has almost come to accept that an operative can’t possibly be competent unless they have a piece of paper confirming that they have passed an exam that merely requires them to look up the index in a book. Even doing only that, the candidate can still pass by getting 40% of the questions wrong! Don’t worry if you fail, have another go, fail again, well maybe next time you will get the same questions you got first time.
    It is this kind of forced processing that I object to and the fact that the 18th Edition qualification has come to be considered a safety critical element, which, in its present form, it certainly is not.

    What is it to be this time? An AFDD should (a) be placed in the middle of circuit (b) only used in rich peoples homes (c) be placed at the origin of a final circuit (d) be placed out of reach. The correct answer is (b) by the way.

    Then again maybe that’s where we are with things but as you say, GTB, we wouldn’t want to be razing a building for the lack of a wee bit of training! 

  • in reply to lyledunn

    That's that 421.1.7 reg. innit?

    Z.

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