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New AMd 2 Regs Date

When will the new regulations become into effect for work carried out, and if a installation has already been designed but no work carried out will that design have to be updated?

  • In some cases that will depend on contact agreement, when it states either a fixed version or ' the latest'.

    Where not then I suggest the advice here is the right starting point.

    https://www.theiet.org/media/press-releases/press-releases-2022/press-releases-2022-january-march/24-january-2022-iet-and-bsi-publish-amendment-2-2022-to-bs-76712018-iet-wiring-regulations/

    "Amendment 2 comes into effect immediately when published on 28th March 2022 and the previous version, BS 7671:2018+A1:2020, will be withdrawn six months later."

    So unless fixed by some other legal clause, there is a 6 month period to finish things started or pre-agreed, and then it becomes compulsory for new stuff if you need to to claim it meets the current regs, but you can start to use the new one yesterday, if you wish.

    During the cross-over, both remain 'current standards' until the old one is quietly withdrawn during the summer hols..

    Mike

  • If you design an installion now and start it in three months time and complete it in 20 years time then ...................

  • During the cross-over, both remain 'current standards' until the old one is quietly withdrawn during the summer hols..

    I haven't got the big brown slightly glossy book either Mike. But I believe you comply fully with either the old or the new, you can't cherry pick bits from both.

  • yes, maybe I was not clear, but you can divide your work up and do a job to one standard in one place and works to the other elsewhere.

    Given how few installations comply to all aspects of any version of BS7671, and that the changes are only a few,  I suspect it is  not as important as it sounds.

    Mike

  • I've started a extension last week. The submain was run over 12 moths ago and the final design only came about around a month ago. I had already purchased the materials for the job, including a new cu, and it won't have afdds fitted.

  • That makes me wonder how a submain could be put in before somebody designed it. But you have nothing to worry about - it is the design date which counts (within reason). Major engineering projects span several editions of BS 7671. For example, Crossrail started during 17th Edn (unamended) and might just open before 18th +2 supersedes Amd 1. 

  • That makes me wonder how a submain could be put in before somebody designed it. But you have nothing to worry about - it is the design date which counts (within reason).

    To a point (give or take the standpoint of contracts, and what legally would be acceptable in terms of "reasonably practicable", "reasonable skill and care" etc.), that was true in earlier Editions of BS 7671 ... to a point ... i.e. cutover was based on "designed before" or "construction on site after" etc.

    With Amendment 2, BS 7671 follows other standards in terms of being "Current" or "Withdrawn".

    Major engineering projects span several editions of BS 7671. For example, Crossrail started during 17th Edn (unamended) and might just open before 18th +2 supersedes Amd 1.

    Yes, the standard forms of contract used in the industry cover standards. Usually initial contract is based on standards and legislation in force at an agreed date, and changes to standards and legislation are covered by variation clauses. It may be that the Client does not agree to a variation to move to a newer version of a particular standard, but that is all covered by the variation clauses.

    This is the case whatever is written in BS 7671 ...

    I've started a extension last week. The submain was run over 12 moths ago and the final design only came about around a month ago. I had already purchased the materials for the job, including a new cu, and it won't have afdds fitted.

    Even if you go "Amendment 2" would you require AFDDs?

    Regardless, your decisions on this particular job wouldn't alter much whatever is written in BS 7671 regarding "cutover"?