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Wiring in the room behind an open flame fire

Wend Lawson

Looking to install an open fire with chimney grate etc.  On the other side of this install in the room behind there are sockets on the wall, (telephone and a couple of double sockets) direcdtly behind where the fire will be installed in the other room.  Are there any regulations around this?  Cannot find anything stating that this wouldn't be allowed.

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    It seems that the principles of building construction have been forgotten. Chimneys are often built "back to back" as it makes the construction easier, but it is not because of temperature! Open fires are not just built against the bricks or whatever, they have a fireclay fireback, and then part J requires an impermeable lining to flue up the inside of the chimney to prevent combustion products from escaping into the rest of the building. You also need an air supply and a CO alarm. The old-fashioned large chimney spaces or inglenooks did not have the fire against the rear wall, thy had it contained by dogs or a basket, as building materials exposed to hot fires for long periods deteriorate badly.

    The electrical parts on the opposite side of the wall will be fine.

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    It seems that the principles of building construction have been forgotten. Chimneys are often built "back to back" as it makes the construction easier, but it is not because of temperature! Open fires are not just built against the bricks or whatever, they have a fireclay fireback, and then part J requires an impermeable lining to flue up the inside of the chimney to prevent combustion products from escaping into the rest of the building. You also need an air supply and a CO alarm. The old-fashioned large chimney spaces or inglenooks did not have the fire against the rear wall, thy had it contained by dogs or a basket, as building materials exposed to hot fires for long periods deteriorate badly.

    The electrical parts on the opposite side of the wall will be fine.

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    David Stone said:
    It seems that the principles of building construction have been forgotten. Chimneys are often built "back to back" as it makes the construction easier, but it is not because of temperature! Open fires are not just built against the bricks or whatever, they have a fireclay fireback, and then part J requires an impermeable lining to flue up the inside of the chimney to prevent combustion products from escaping into the rest of the building. You also need an air supply and a CO alarm.

    Of course. It is much easier to have one chimney breast and one chimney stack (but with all the flues exiting through their own pot) than many individual ones.

    Given that a chimney sucks the exhaust gasses away from a fire rather than the fire blowing them up the chimney, I fail to understand the modern business of having flue liners, etc. but it may be a reflection of having hermetically sealed buildings nowadays.

    As with all construction matters, selecting the right tradesman can be the most difficult part.

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