Exposed: Cash for logos and drive by inspections

What happened to the statement " When preparing an EICR the inspector does not need to know the historical details of the Wring Regulations, because the EICR is a comparison against the current edition, not earlier editions, which means you cannot always vary the codes depending on the age of the electrical installation"?

Still there I think. The tricky bit comes because EICR isn't just a simple complies in every respect (pass), or doesn't comply in at least one respect (fail) - there's a need take a view on how serious each non-conformity is. Knowing how long ago the requirement was introduced is perhaps one handy yardstick for how acceptable its absence might be. If it was generally acceptable yesterday or last year it's probably considred less serious than something that hasn't been acceptable for half a century.

Apparently the first requirement for 30 mA RCD Supplementary Protection in a TN earthed installation was the provision of a 30 mA protected socket for outdoor use in 1981.

Sounds about right - usually achieved with one RCD socket marked 'For Equipment Outdoors' (if it was met at all). The requirement for 30mA RCDs for sockets in general (for indoor equipment, or indeed for bathroom circuits) is much much more recent. Most guidance AFAIK aligns with that - C2 for no 30mA RCD protection for sockets likely to be used for equipment outdoors, C3 in other cases. Likewise C3 for lack of RCD additional protection for bathroom circuits if supplementary bonding is OK, C2 if it isn't.

   - Andy.

AJJewsbury said:

The requirement for 30mA RCDs for sockets in general (for indoor equipment, or indeed for bathroom circuits) is much much more recent.

Bathrooms 2008 ... given plastic pipe repairs etc., definitely more urgency getting that addressed, but GP socket-outlets (especially where there are likely to be children or vulnerable persons) can't be overlooked.

If we are talking about rented accommodation, it's not like the tenant has a choice whether to install or not. Yes, they could buy a PRCD for socket-outlets, but an inordinate cost to do that for every outlet or appliance ... and of course that won't work for the bathroom.

AJJewsbury said:

The requirement for 30mA RCDs for sockets in general (for indoor equipment, or indeed for bathroom circuits) is much much more recent.

Bathrooms 2008 ... given plastic pipe repairs etc., definitely more urgency getting that addressed, but GP socket-outlets (especially where there are likely to be children or vulnerable persons) can't be overlooked.

If we are talking about rented accommodation, it's not like the tenant has a choice whether to install or not. Yes, they could buy a PRCD for socket-outlets, but an inordinate cost to do that for every outlet or appliance ... and of course that won't work for the bathroom.