Summary of Condition of Installation

I did not pass comment about why people are using voice commands, merely that they are.

Lets go back to EICRs, twenty years ago an electrician would send a customer a paper certificate and keep a hard copy.

Now, an electrician may:

• Hand write a certificate whilst on the job and hand it to the customer, which is what I do for Minor Works.
• Complete a certificate electronically on a mobile device whilst on the job and email to the customer.
• Complete the certificate later in the office then post a hard copy to the customer and/or email it to them.

When I hand write a certificate onsite it also generally gets scanned and attached to an invoice, then stored electronically.

Twenty years ago most customers had a file they kept all their important receipts and other paperwork associated with their homes in, this has now been replaced by their email account.

This means that if a person dies the person trying to sell their homes if they owned it and who is trying to settle their estate needs access to the deceased persons email account to access the documents and paperwork that used to be kept in a big folder as hard copies.

I was recently asked for a copy of a Part P certificate from 2015, I am expected to keep electrical certification for six years, so I’m under no obligation at all to supply a copy, I logged into the NAPIT website and emailed a copy of the notification, but have not tried to find the certificate as I have changed computers and the hard copy is somewhere in my loft, I know I supplied certificates in the first place and actually it’s not up to me to sort out paperwork for their house sale seven years after I did the work.

When I settled my mothers estate after she died I had to go through checking insurance policies taken out decades, at least I had the original certificates although the companies had been taken over and merged, so I had to work out who had the policies at the time she died tomorrow things out.

At least I had a big box with lots of paperwork in, imagine if I only had a mobile phone and an Ipad that were both locked as were email and other accounts.

Sparkingchip said:

Twenty years ago most customers had a file they kept all their important receipts and other paperwork associated with their homes in, this has now been replaced by their email account.

My late mother, who died in 2012 at the age of 90, kept everything in ring binders so it was easy to find. Bank statements had become digital. If there is paper evidence of a bank account, it is easy to check with the bank to see whether the account is still open; but if it is all digital, an executor might not even know of its existence.

As far as notification is concerned, which is what really concerns house buyers, presumably the LA can confirm certification.

I have been doing Part P Notifications since their inception, as far as I know there’s no way of a customer, a customers solicitor or anyone else being able to access the databases held by the scheme operators other than the LABC and I don’t think the LABC will do a search for solicitors.

I cannot search other electricians notifications on the NAPIT database and cannot even access others, some of which are now legacy because the operators schemes no longer trade.

There is still a lot to be said for having a folder with hard copies of important paperwork.

Yes indeed it is good to have paper share trading  contract notes, bank statements and other essential documents. I may undertake online banking but I still insist on paper statements. Sometimes paper bank statements have to be produced for certain financial transactions, e.g. loans or insurance, or proof of identity etc.

Z.

Yes indeed it is good to have paper share trading  contract notes, bank statements and other essential documents. I may undertake online banking but I still insist on paper statements. Sometimes paper bank statements have to be produced for certain financial transactions, e.g. loans or insurance, or proof of identity etc.

Z.