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2346 not recognised in ROI

The CIty and Guilds 2346 Experienced Worker is now a reasonably established route to achieve recognition as a competent electrician in the U.K. The qualification also embeds a requirement to have the 18th Edition and at least the 2391 initial verification. To apply for an ECS card or QS status with NICEIC, NAPIT or the like, the candidate must also acquire the AM2E. 
The ROI operate a scheme called Safe Electric which controls electrical installation work, particularly in the domestic sector where the work undertaken must be signed off by a Qualified Certifier (QC).

To become a QC, you must have gained an advanced craft certificate in electrical installation which is a level 6 qualification in the ROI and mapped to level 5 on the European Qualification Framework (EQF). Alternatively, if the applicant has gained qualifications outside the ROI, then providing they are equivalent, they will be accepted.

Unfortunately, in the U.K. the NVQ L3 is mapped to a level 4 on the EQF meaning that even someone regarded as fully competent in the U.K. will not be accepted as a QC in the ROI.

I imagine that will be of little consequence to you guys on the mainland but here in NI there is significant draw to the very lucrative electrical installation sector on the domestic side in the ROI.

Quite what the difference is between the qualifications, I have no idea, but one would have expected some collaboration between those who were involved in creating the NVQ L3 and the 2346 in the U.K. and Safe Electric representing our nearest European neighbour. 
Meanwhile, I have quite a few lads who recently gained their 2346, AM2E and the obligatory city and guilds qualification for inspection and testing in ROI who can only sit on the sidelines while the lads in the ROI fill their boots!

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    Everything has to change,  firms agreeing to take work on then having to get someone to travel a long distance to get it completed is not going to work if trades people are going to have electric vans.

    In addition to the limitations on journeys due to having to recharge several times,  there's also the restrictions on driving certain vehicles in some places due to emmisions. I have been driving the long way around to get to jobs in North Birmingham because of the low emmisions zone increasing population,  although it now seems I didn't need to as the whole scheme has descended into chaos and the fines issued have been cancelled as the council was overwhelmed and cannot manage the scheme. 

    Every time an imaginary line is drawn creating some sort of border there's a set of rules and regulations introduced that generally create issues that may damage the economy and create unnecessary problems. 

    Worse still you may end up with the problems that exist on the Pakistani Indian border where the British Government drew a line at partition in 1947 and people are still getting shot now, seventy six years later.

    At this point you may have gathered I am not a fan of imaginary lines on maps splitting communities and dividing people. 

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    Everything has to change,  firms agreeing to take work on then having to get someone to travel a long distance to get it completed is not going to work if trades people are going to have electric vans.

    In addition to the limitations on journeys due to having to recharge several times,  there's also the restrictions on driving certain vehicles in some places due to emmisions. I have been driving the long way around to get to jobs in North Birmingham because of the low emmisions zone increasing population,  although it now seems I didn't need to as the whole scheme has descended into chaos and the fines issued have been cancelled as the council was overwhelmed and cannot manage the scheme. 

    Every time an imaginary line is drawn creating some sort of border there's a set of rules and regulations introduced that generally create issues that may damage the economy and create unnecessary problems. 

    Worse still you may end up with the problems that exist on the Pakistani Indian border where the British Government drew a line at partition in 1947 and people are still getting shot now, seventy six years later.

    At this point you may have gathered I am not a fan of imaginary lines on maps splitting communities and dividing people. 

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  • Everything has to change,  firms agreeing to take work on then having to get someone to travel a long distance to get it completed is not going to work if trades people are going to have electric vans.

    It surprises me that you can make a profit with such long journeys, although you are fairly well placed near the centre of the country and the locations seem to be clustered along the motorway network.

  • I was once paid to drive to Cambridge to put a plug on a shower pump then plug it in.

    I really didn’t think it would be as simple as that when I left home as the guy on site wasn’t engaging and replying to my messages asking what exactly needed to be done, I was expecting to have to lift carpets and floor boards to run a cable in and so on, but it was simply fit a plug although I tested and certified the socket I plugged it into was safe.

    A full days pay plus mileage, but I didn’t charge for the plug as that seemed like it would be egging the pudding.

    Some days have been a doddle, others are hard work. But going back to the original post, it’s only like living in Dublin and covering the whole of the Island of Ireland, which I’m sure electricians must be doing although without the motorways.