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2346 not recognised in ROI

The CIty and Guilds 2346 Experienced Worker is now a reasonably established route to achieve recognition as a competent electrician in the U.K. The qualification also embeds a requirement to have the 18th Edition and at least the 2391 initial verification. To apply for an ECS card or QS status with NICEIC, NAPIT or the like, the candidate must also acquire the AM2E. 
The ROI operate a scheme called Safe Electric which controls electrical installation work, particularly in the domestic sector where the work undertaken must be signed off by a Qualified Certifier (QC).

To become a QC, you must have gained an advanced craft certificate in electrical installation which is a level 6 qualification in the ROI and mapped to level 5 on the European Qualification Framework (EQF). Alternatively, if the applicant has gained qualifications outside the ROI, then providing they are equivalent, they will be accepted.

Unfortunately, in the U.K. the NVQ L3 is mapped to a level 4 on the EQF meaning that even someone regarded as fully competent in the U.K. will not be accepted as a QC in the ROI.

I imagine that will be of little consequence to you guys on the mainland but here in NI there is significant draw to the very lucrative electrical installation sector on the domestic side in the ROI.

Quite what the difference is between the qualifications, I have no idea, but one would have expected some collaboration between those who were involved in creating the NVQ L3 and the 2346 in the U.K. and Safe Electric representing our nearest European neighbour. 
Meanwhile, I have quite a few lads who recently gained their 2346, AM2E and the obligatory city and guilds qualification for inspection and testing in ROI who can only sit on the sidelines while the lads in the ROI fill their boots!

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  • If you think my wittering's are bizarre consider reality, that is even more bizarre when you look back to the Covid Lockdown periods.

    I had a phone call just as the lockdowns were about to come into force asking me to go to South Wales Valleys to install a new shower circuit for a job with a fitter from Yorkshire.

    The firm had given the work to a local fitter who lives in South Wales, apparently he turned up at eight o'clock on the Monday morning along with two other guys and ripped the bathroom out as well as taking the stud wall down between the bathroom and separate toilet to make it one room, then around eleven o'clock they told the customer they were going to get some materials from a builders merchants and never returned to site or made contact with the firm or customer again. Not the first or last time this has or will happen, it actually happens quite often.

    The guy from Yorkshire had already stopped work because work was being cancelled due to Covid, however he agreed to drive down on the Tuesday evening having managed to book a hotel room ready to start at eight on the Wednesday do do twelve hour days to get the job finished before going back home because the customers literally did not have a bathroom, then I went down on the Thursday and installed the new shower circuit, driving there and back without stopping, having a full tank of fuel and everything I needed in the van including food and drink. 

    The job was all done and finished, then the following week the border was literally closed in the first lockdown and I wasn't even allowed to drive my van off my driveway at home and go to work.

    Reality is far stranger than fiction,  

    Covid: Policing lockdown 'challenging' because of public's 'fatigue' - BBC News 

    Photo- Gwent Police and BBC

  • "If you think my wittering's are bizarre consider reality" 

    No not at all Sparkingchip. Seems perfectly reasonable and totally believable to me.

    Once you have been doing these jobs a little while the

    "Well I never would have guessed anyone would do/say that" becomes " Oh yes it`s happened before".

    Your grasp on rea life changes rapidly and forever.

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  • "If you think my wittering's are bizarre consider reality" 

    No not at all Sparkingchip. Seems perfectly reasonable and totally believable to me.

    Once you have been doing these jobs a little while the

    "Well I never would have guessed anyone would do/say that" becomes " Oh yes it`s happened before".

    Your grasp on rea life changes rapidly and forever.

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