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Following on from Competency and legacy NVQ3 thread

Zs

Hello friends,

Was there ever any update to the suggestion in the OP of this thread that things were being looked at?

Competent Person Scheme and legacy NVQ3 Qualifications - Wiring and the Regulations BS 7671 - IET EngX - IET EngX (theiet.org)

A year or so ago I found myself in the situation described in that thread.  I gave up my registration because I no longer needed it.  I'm still a full time Electrical Engineer, just not in construction or domestic. My hands are cleaner these days.  I decided to go back in order to look after my ageing parents' electrical installations and generally to keep my hand in. I miss being on the tools. I miss fault finding and I&T.  The local council won't take my I&Ts anymore, and so on.    It'll never be a decent income again but it's great to be able to help out.  I'm not the kind that gets A N Other in to do a certificate.   

Between being welcomed back and having a job ready for inspection, everything changed.  I should have been warned about that but it seemed to have slipped through the advice I was given.  I did get a full refund after a bit of a struggle.

The IET are blamed for the change by the way, in spades.  I can see from my research that's not  the case.

I decided to go for it.  Working on the basis that if my beloved industry is now telling me I'm not competent to re wire a bathroom or the like, then I need to get their confidence back.  I can shout and scream and cry about it all I want.  Believe me, I have done so.  Shouting and screaming didn't get me an agreement to re register though.   This whole process is not without its politics and when it is over, I have soo much to share with you. There is a diary of course.

So, here's the conundrum - 

Zs wants to re register.

An NVQ3 and an AM2E are suddenly required (£1800 NVQ3 which is entirely on line, with Zoom assessments, plus loads of costs) 

NVQ3 want to see my work and give me a list of what they'd like to see - Steel conduit, Distribution,Trunking, Smart, and so on.   

I can do that but I'm not supposed to be doing half the work the NVQ3 is asking to see..... No JIB card, no insurance without registration, cannot go out and help on a construction site- You get where I'm going with all this..

Rocks and Hard Places come to mind.

How are the jobs for the NVQ assessment being prepared unless by employees/ workers who do not have their badges yet?  

I promise you that this is not easy to do when you work full time already and don't go out to work on a construction site.  There is a clear focus on all this being in quest of a JIB card but it isn't  - I don't need a JIB card any more than I need some of the other things I'm asked to go for.  This is to get my registration back.  

I'm plodding through the NVQ3 now.  Yes, if you had time you could do it fairly quickly.  Then I will go to a college for the AM2E ( E for experience?  Old codgers assessment).. I am dreading that in such a big way.  

The plan is to book a place for that sometime about Easter - I'll see.  I'll have plenty of circuits to offer an NIC or NAPIT assessor by then.

Lyle, is your college a NET college?  I'd gladly come to yours.   I've noticed a touch of not being taken seriously with this process. understandable I suppose but I did think those days were gone.

Please let me know if there has been any change - before I go of to a college and get handed a bundle of SY cable to connect against the clock  (are they really asking for SY cable?).

Otherwise - hang in there. I did decide to do it and  I will be able to offer you perfect knowledge of it all before too long.

Zs 

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  • Zs said:

    Lyle, is your college a NET college?  I'd gladly come to yours.   I've noticed a touch of not being taken seriously with this process. understandable I suppose but I did think those days were gone.

    Please let me know if there has been any change - before I go of to a college and get handed a bundle of SY cable to connect against the clock  (are they really asking for SY cable?)

    Zs, 

    I would be more than happy to assist you in any way I can. My centre is in Antrim Northern Ireland. I am sure I could get them to reduce their fee and I will waive mine. The education I get from this forum is priceless so if I can give something back (apart from the IET membership fee which I happily part with) then I will with alacrity!

    I produced a simple, straightforward portfolio for my candidates, a bit like a long-winded form but one that can easily be completed in a relatively short period. Obviously, you will need to meet the performance objectives and range criteria.  These will be subject to both internal and external verification. It really should be wee buns for  someone with your experience. 

    No need to visit the Centre but if you wanted to you would be very welcome. We are on the doorstep of Belfast International Airport and the AM2 Centre is not far away although I would think you could do the AM2E at any NET Centre. By the way, the 2346 is a stand alone qualification. You do need to have the 18th and at least the initial verification part of the 2391. The AM2E is only required if you want the ECS Gold Card or QS status for NICEIC etc.

    And to be clear, you dont need to sign up with my Centre for me to assist you!

    With respect to the SY cable, yes still on the AM2 and AM2E. As I understand it, the EIC you will do already has it listed under the details of departures section. 

    PM me if you want to find out more.

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  • Zs said:

    Lyle, is your college a NET college?  I'd gladly come to yours.   I've noticed a touch of not being taken seriously with this process. understandable I suppose but I did think those days were gone.

    Please let me know if there has been any change - before I go of to a college and get handed a bundle of SY cable to connect against the clock  (are they really asking for SY cable?)

    Zs, 

    I would be more than happy to assist you in any way I can. My centre is in Antrim Northern Ireland. I am sure I could get them to reduce their fee and I will waive mine. The education I get from this forum is priceless so if I can give something back (apart from the IET membership fee which I happily part with) then I will with alacrity!

    I produced a simple, straightforward portfolio for my candidates, a bit like a long-winded form but one that can easily be completed in a relatively short period. Obviously, you will need to meet the performance objectives and range criteria.  These will be subject to both internal and external verification. It really should be wee buns for  someone with your experience. 

    No need to visit the Centre but if you wanted to you would be very welcome. We are on the doorstep of Belfast International Airport and the AM2 Centre is not far away although I would think you could do the AM2E at any NET Centre. By the way, the 2346 is a stand alone qualification. You do need to have the 18th and at least the initial verification part of the 2391. The AM2E is only required if you want the ECS Gold Card or QS status for NICEIC etc.

    And to be clear, you dont need to sign up with my Centre for me to assist you!

    With respect to the SY cable, yes still on the AM2 and AM2E. As I understand it, the EIC you will do already has it listed under the details of departures section. 

    PM me if you want to find out more.

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