Cable size of tails supplying a CU

I have a temporary CU board setup for rewires etc. (CU, isolator, 25mm tails, earth block, socket outlets) that I want to make smaller (and also want to know theses answers anyway).

If I made a new temporary CU board setup with a mains isolator to 4mm T&E tails, to single module 32A RCBO, to 4mm T&E final circuit cable, to a socket outlet or two, do you think the 4mm tails would be compliant?

Overload protection - The 4mm tails (and reduction in CCC) are protected from overload by the 32A RCBO and design current of 32A of the socket circuit.

Fault protection - Lets say most common main fuse in domestic is 100A (worst case) BS 1361 / BS 88-3 which has a max Zs of 0.27 ohms to achieve a 5 second disconnection time for a distribution circuit on a TN system (0.14 ohms for 0.4 seconds). So if the Zs is <0.27 it's OK.

Main (tails) earth size would need to be the same as the line conductor (4mm) to comply with table 54.7.

Or use the adiabatic equation (amusing a Zs of less than 0.27 ohms):

S =
√ I2 x t
/ k

Where:

Zs = 0.27 ohms
I (fault current) = 851A (230 / 0.27)
t = 1s (850A on BS 88-3 time current graph)
k = 115 (70* thermoplastic) or 143 if separate cable

√ 851 x 851 x 1 = 851
851 / 115 = 7.4mm2
or 851 / 143 = 5.9mm2 (if separate cable)

So 4mm supply tails with 4mm earth using table 54.7 would be adequate? Am I missing anything? Thanks.

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  • If a fault occurs that damages your temporary tails, and gives a dead short L_N or L_E then the 100A fuse will blow. But the adiabatic formula shows that as well as the mechanical damage, in blowing that fuse,  you may well have have 'cooked' your 4mm cables and taken the plastic beyond the point of melting to a state of no return.  - But that's alright! - They are short, so you replace them anyway after such an event, and do not try to tape up the damage and re-use.

    Not a real danger, so long as that risk is understood and accepted.

    Mike

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  • If a fault occurs that damages your temporary tails, and gives a dead short L_N or L_E then the 100A fuse will blow. But the adiabatic formula shows that as well as the mechanical damage, in blowing that fuse,  you may well have have 'cooked' your 4mm cables and taken the plastic beyond the point of melting to a state of no return.  - But that's alright! - They are short, so you replace them anyway after such an event, and do not try to tape up the damage and re-use.

    Not a real danger, so long as that risk is understood and accepted.

    Mike

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  • Whilst I think you have a point, , it does, of course, depends how "temporary" temporary supplies actually are. Less of a risk for individual electrical work of extremely short duration, and where combustible materials, dust etc, are not permitted to accumulate around the reduced csa conductors... and so on and so on.

    Not something I'd recommend on a site with other trades working, and larger companies (bigger risk exposure at least on the numbers game vs increases in fines etc.) might see things very differently also.