The manufacturers declared Im is 8xIn which is not adjustable. If I need 5s disconnection time for ADS reasons, do I use the "ust" curve which looks to be around 12xIn?
The manufacturers declared Im is 8xIn which is not adjustable. If I need 5s disconnection time for ADS reasons, do I use the "ust" curve which looks to be around 12xIn?
Yes
You may prefer the English/French language version of that graph on page 37 of https://sigmaelektrik.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/1-LV-Moulded-Case-Circuit-Breakers.pdf
which has the captions in a more recognisable format Think of "ust" as upper switching threshold if calling it "Limite Superior" is not to your liking.
You may also wonder about the 4 lines instead of 2 and it had me looking until you realise that this is a graph for two breakers, the S250, and the K 250 overlaid. Doh!
Which do you have?
Mike.
Cheers Mike!
Not sure which model is in place. Was not on this particular install which is supplying a cubicle for several EV charge points. The 200A MCCB provides an underground supply to the cubicle via a swa which is earthed at the supply end only. TNCS earthing arrangement.. From the cubicle out to the EVSEs all is TT.
Apparently the Zs at the disconnected swa and inner earth core sum to a measured Zs of 0.22ohms. I think we did have a discussion about the do's and dont's of not earthing the swa and it was thought imprudent to rely on it for mechanical protection only???
Indeed there is not much point in a wire armour unless it is earthed to something that will pop the ADS in someway. Even a garden fork is capable of separating the strands on smaller SWA, let alone anything more agricultural. You'd not like that to stay live all day.
However I presume this is 35 or 50mm2 cable so fairly tough.
A fault loop of 0.22 ohms (ISC of what - about 1kA-1,1kA ?) seems a bit high for a 200A breaker, especially one that needs 10 to 12 times the 200A depending on the model chosen to be sure it will trip promptly.
If it does not go in 5 seconds it may go in 10-20...
Mind you , on a TNC-s supply, that impedance will be similar for the L-N loop as well and so that also suggest up to 20% voltage drop at 200A load so perhaps something in the supply is a bit undersized (well over-long and/or too thin), or the breaker a bit on the large side for what it is meant to protect. Or the test result is a bit off.
In many ways a fuse may have been better, and I think you are right to raise at least a curious eyebrow and perhaps to request an explanation.
Mike.
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