Unknown said:

The IET define the EAS.

That is incorrect, the IET do NOT define the EAS. The EAS Management Committee defines the EAS, and the IET has agreed to host the published documents. This is discussed on the following web-page: https://electrical.theiet.org/bs-7671/building-regulations/electrotechnical-assessment-specification/

The organizations involved in production of the EAS specification are discussed in Sections 2.1 and 2.2 of the specification.

Unknown said:

EAS set out by IET

As above, set out by the cross-industry EAS Management Committee.

Unknown said:

there are contractors out there who have experience and older quals

Agreed, the Qualifications Guide provides further clarity in this regard. This also includes the following:

Very large hand in decisions with tue ESC included, also administrative responsibility (you have to got to the IET to access the document)

For many years, my company has employed contractors who are over 50 and have extensive industry experience. Despite having various qualifications and skills, we had to enrol in college in 2014 to complete NVQ level 3 and get Gold cards. This is the minimum requirement to be an ECS electrician. We did not complain and achieved our ECS registered electrician Gold Cards. Furthermore, we had to undergo the 3 day AM2 assessment, which was not easy or cheap for us.
I believe that the EAS should value and acknowledge the existing qualifications and experience of electricians, and create a category that exempts those who have demonstrated their competence in their specific sector.

I reckon there are moves afoot to direct the career route for a electrician towards degree level, just as they did with nursing, and look where that got us. It is now beneath a nurse to have to empty a bedpan, the task which now has to be carried out by what are perceived to be by nurses as being lowly 'ward carers'.

"Change a light bulb?" Sorry, it is beneath me, so go find a handyman instead".

I can’t see that happening. It’s a money generator for unneeded training. 
This approach does not happen in any other trade (who are paid as well)

The EAS is a joke. You will be better off being a plasterer in the long run.

whjohnson said:

I reckon there are moves afoot to direct the career route for a electrician towards degree level, just as they did with nursing, and look where that got us.

I am not sure about that.

When I went to university in the late 1970s, only about 15% of the population did so and the nation could afford to train its doctors, etc. free of charge. By the time that nursing became a degree subject, more like 50% of school-leavers went to university and they had to pay their own way.

Now apprenticeships seem to be on the way back. The pay is not great, but at least it is in the right direction

That doesn’t really address the problem with people 40+ who are being forced into unnecessary education via the EAS which is backed by the IET

People like you are few and far between.

I don’t think you should be allowed to pay for an NVQ, C&G qualification and the EAS declares it useless. I disagree with the the IET EAS. We jump through hopps at our own cost to do what. No other trade requires this level of retrospective education. 

It is wrong that we have to constantly update our education to comply with the evolving standards of the electrical industry. No other trade faces this kind of challenge and bias.

Send me your number. I will get in touch. I agree with you and it needs addressing 

AMK said:

It is wrong that we have to constantly update our education to comply with the evolving standards of the electrical industry. No other trade faces this kind of challenge and bias.

Well, not always 'education'. What's wrong with continuing professional development (CPD) ?

I can understand the situation that, when there's no "formal record" of CPD, 'qualifications' become 'out of date'.

CPD is a core tenet that the Engineering Council promotes, and that Registered Members of the IET support.

Unknown said:

I don’t think you should be allowed to pay for an NVQ, C&G qualification and the EAS declares it useless. I disagree with the the IET EAS

'Old' qualifications don't cover changes in practices and technology. It's not "IET EAS".

If there had been a strict record of CPD that could clearly demonstrate a path between the time of gaining qualifications, vs current practice, that would be another story?

I don't think we talking about individuals who are Professionally Registered, or possess ECS Gold Card etc, but other cases where there isn't a continued record of 'keeping up-to-date' ?

AMK said:

It is wrong that we have to constantly update our education to comply with the evolving standards of the electrical industry. No other trade faces this kind of challenge and bias.

Well, not always 'education'. What's wrong with continuing professional development (CPD) ?

I can understand the situation that, when there's no "formal record" of CPD, 'qualifications' become 'out of date'.

CPD is a core tenet that the Engineering Council promotes, and that Registered Members of the IET support.

Unknown said:

I don’t think you should be allowed to pay for an NVQ, C&G qualification and the EAS declares it useless. I disagree with the the IET EAS

'Old' qualifications don't cover changes in practices and technology. It's not "IET EAS".

If there had been a strict record of CPD that could clearly demonstrate a path between the time of gaining qualifications, vs current practice, that would be another story?

I don't think we talking about individuals who are Professionally Registered, or possess ECS Gold Card etc, but other cases where there isn't a continued record of 'keeping up-to-date' ?

That is typical of the response from the IET. All I can tell you is I have two HNCs, fire alarm design, emergency lighting design, PV EV qualls. SMSTS, SSSTS. Keep going. I have constant CPD. Your IET tells me I am not an electrician anymore and it’s ***. It’s a money manking scam. My 2360-3 doesnt count my 2360-1&2 dont nor does my NVQ level three. You are a joke organisation and it’s time people see through you. I wasted so much money for idiots like you to tell me I cannot connect three wires up. The IET is joke

Unknown said:

That is typical of the response from the IET.

That's a response from ME, not the IET ...

Unknown said:

Keep going. I have constant CPD.

Did you register for an ECS Gold Card when you had the opportunity?

Unknown said:

You are a joke organisation and it’s time people see through you.

Sorry, it's just me, not the IET here ... but glad I'm transparent, I always try to be open and honest.

Unknown said:

wasted so much money for idiots like you to tell me I cannot connect three wires up.

I haven't assessed you, or made any statement about your competence. However, you have called me an idiot because I happen to have an opinion that appears to be different to yours. Perhaps that in itself says something?

Unknown said:

Your IET tells me I am not an electrician anymore and it’s ***.

I don't think that's the case, it's just that there is a gap in the records that needs to be assessed, and unfortunately because it wasn't done under an earlier scheme, the accepted route is now quite costly.
(Also, note that I haven't said whether I agree with the current requirement for re-assessment or not ... the costs of and timescales for that are separate discussions entirely.)

At the end of the day, we knew that this was coming over 20 years ago. I have practical qualifications to maintain as well, and I am also over 48 years old! But, as well as registering with the IET (and maintaining constant CPD record), I also did the same with ECS Gold Card for the practical quals ... OK, granted there was some incentive working on large construction sites that mandated CSCS and affiliated card schemes for managers, and those using tools and test equipment ... but that was just the start of where we are now.

Thank you for your response, I agree on being wrong with my view at some angle. 
you agree it is a money making scam. I used my self as an example. I have a black card and no longer require a gold one. Myy point it being told you incompetent at a certain age because the IET and EAS decide one day to change it is a scam. Whether it was coming twenty years or not. An NVQ from a reputable college should not be dismissed. To agree that it should he would say the NVQ route is a scam as nothing stopping current ones being defunct in 20 years. The system is a joke

Unknown said:

I have a black card and no longer require a gold one.

That's interesting. I had both, keeping the gold one alongside, but have (for certain reasons) let the black one go (easier to get the black one back TBH).

 Tell that to a sparky without anything above level three