Looks like an insulted version of a Bemco unit. Just out of curiosity, how close are bare live parts to the holes? IIRC the requirement is IP4X or IPXXD - the latter is somewhat more lax - as long as a 100mm long 1mm dia wire can't touch live parts, it could well comply technically.

   - Andy.

Looks like an insulted version of a Bemco unit. Just out of curiosity, how close are bare live parts to the holes? IIRC the requirement is IP4X or IPXXD - the latter is somewhat more lax - as long as a 100mm long 1mm dia wire can't touch live parts, it could well comply technically.

   - Andy.

The terminals i could see were a fair way down.  Do these sort of things generally have fuses in ? or do i have a load of unfused meter tails

Unless there is an obvious service head somewhere else - cant see on this one,

There will be a row of 100A fuses that belong to the DNO in the white box, probably a few per phase. Does it have anti tamper seals and how is your attitude for risk....

I may be tempted to go a little  wild with a mastic gun and split some universal grommets, assuming the holes are a standard size and 32mm.

https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/GR32B.html

and then get out and not ask too many questions.

M.

Cheers Mike.   I can't get access again now without going through the estate agent. I'll just put it in the report and leave it to them to sort out if it needs it.  Thank you all for your help.  

Gary

AJJewsbury said:

as long as a 100mm long 1mm dia wire can't touch live parts

100 ± 0.2 mm long, 1 + 0.05 - 0.00 mm diameter  probe (specifically, Test Probe D in BS EN 60132), with a spherical limiter dimensioned according to the standard.

When fully inserted with a force of 1.0 ± 0.1 N, the the probe should not be within the relevant clearance distance of live parts (clearance distance varies with the product standard).

Some products standards vary the probe "delimeter" dimensions, tolerances and force applied (for very good reasons relevant to the product in question). Some product standards specify an insulation test or withstand test voltage to be applied for some of the access probe tests.

mapj1 said:

I may be tempted to go a little  wild with a mastic gun and split some universal grommets

As long as that's done in a way that can cope with the force of 1 N (or higher force if required by the product standard) on the 1 mm steel wire probe.

I won't be touching it. It can be somebody elses problem.

Gary

Hm, 1 MPa.

Hm, 1 MPa.

Probably a bit more - it's 1mm dia wire, not 1mm², still 1N is equivalent to only around about 102g (4oz).

   - Andy.

I fear the moment to worry about the finer points of the product standard was lost along with the box of original glands that should have come with the enclosure. The best anyone can sensibly do now is make it a little harder for kids to drop paperclips and coins in, and to keep out any water. At least its not in a damp basement with a coal dust and earth floor and a half inch puddle beneath it

Either I have an odd profile of friends with especially  dicky accommodation, or there are a reasonably high fraction of truly horrible installations in the basements of smaller block of flats made from converting Victorian townhouses  and things, that every one agrees are wrong and even dangerous, and at the same time no-one really dares touch as the responsibility is unclear.

But I reckon a decent snotting of mastic or grip fill is better than nothing and may well hold off a 1N force... just make sure it does not bear your fingerprints in case there is any comeback.

Mike.

OK, round not square = 1.27 MPa.