Is that not out of scope. An EICR is about electrical safety. We take on enough liability doing EICR's without doing somebody else's job. 

Edited to add somebody better qualified to make those judgements

Gary

It is just a tick box and then it puts the onus back on the Owner/Responsible Person/Duty holder

Sorry I missed the tick box thing. Still if it gets missed or mis-read for some reason it makes you liable. I personally think it has nothing to do with an EICR.  I will add that I don't inspect those sort of properties so perhaps my view is not as valid as those that do.

Gary

Should it perhaps be the other way - the building user/responsible persons fire check should have a box to tick saying 'EICR in date ?'  Along with ' Fire shutters operate?' and 'Door closers work' and things

It  is not clear who is in ultimately in charge of things otherwise.

On the EICR it might say copy sent to fire risk assessor ?

Mike.

Interesting idea Mike.  Maybe the humble EICR and the humble FRA should have a tick box that refers to the other being present and in date/valid.

Hi Gary

All views and opinions are valid on my posts.  This is merely an academic debate that may help in the future make our industry better and safer.  The electrical industry is so intertwined with all industries that there is always overlap. 

Absolutely nothing to do with our EICR inspection regime and responsibilities.

The "Duty Holder" is responsible for ensuring compliance with all applicable statute regulation for their property.

The Fire Risk Assessment of the property has nothing to do with an EICR, even suggesting a "Tick" box, would mean what? the electrical inspector saw a bit of paper with a signature and words fire risk assessment and some dates ?

Where would you stop? add on another box to say Legionella checks have been done, gas appliances have a valid Gas Safe inspection Cert, Lifts have had a LOLER inspection done.....................etc etc?

The electrical contractor/inspector should be employed ideally with a formal contract to do a EICR with any exclusions etc agreed in advance. The competent inspector carries out the EICR inspection/tests, issues the required report and thats it end of story.

Maybe in the UK, if we can actually get 100% of the EICR's to be actually carried out and reports completed in accordance with BS7671:2018+Amd2:2022 then that would be a good step to achieve first.

Some Duty Holders employ people to amke sure they are compliant with all legislation and regulation, so those people should be ensuring fire risk assessment in place, control procedures etc are in place, mainatined and working, and any works/changes of use to the property structure, processes, materials then that risk assessmnet is reviewed and any requirements carried out.

Duty Holders can employ specilist facility Management or Safety companies to make sure they are compliant.

Not for the EICR.

GTB

An EICR includes a tick box for the provision of fire barriers, sealing etc. Should the information on the buildings fire strategy be ambiguous or absent, I advise on the EICR it is recommended that a fire safety report be obtained to complete the evaluation of all relevant fire safety requirements, as per Section 527. 

Sage advice. 

Fire Safety Report may be better than FRA (Fire Risk Assessment)

GTB said:

Maybe in the UK, if we can actually get 100% of the EICR's to be actually carried out and reports completed in accordance with BS7671:2018+Amd2:2022 then that would be a good step to achieve first.

Is there an extra zero in that target?