Apprentice (Young Person) Training safe working voltages

Is there any specific guidance, code of practice or legislation which determines a safe working voltage for apprentices in a training facility (school)? Other than EAWR Reg 16, which states people require technical knowledge or experience, or under such a degree of supervision as may be appropriate to avoid danger. HSE INDG354 mentions as a rough guide that the use of voltages exceeding 50v ac or 120v ripple-free dc are hazardous in certain conditions.

So as an example, a first year apprentice wouldn't be expected to work on or near 240v ac (they are unaware of the risk). Only when they have gained suitable knowledge and experience through adequate training, would the risk be increased from a safe voltage. I'm not suggest apprentices can't train with 240v ac, but I would expect them to start on the theory and understand basic electrical principles before they are put at that risk. The start of an apprenticeship doesn't warrant a danger voltage to prove basic principles and electrical testing/theory.

All thoughts and opinions are appreciated.

Regards,

RJ

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  • Worth also remembering that the EAWR is in terms of danger rather than simple electric shock, and the term incorporates hazards associated with heat, arcs and sparks, etc.


    Controlling voltage alone doesn't help with danger in general, so I would say that employers and training organizations ought to consider the risks in the round to comply with legislation.

    Also worth remembering that no-one should be "working live" (different to "testing live" with suitable equipment) so initially at least, the important things are the safe isolation approach, and adequate supervision to make sure safe isolation is being effectively done before work starts ... irrespective of voltage involved where currents can provide danger as defined in the legislation.

  • Someone mentioned PPE.

    I assume that the college would have carried out a Risk Assesment for the activities in the college workshop? That would have determined what the risks are and if they cannot be eliminated measures would be put in place to mitigate the risks. A RAMS developed and comminicated. PPE is a last resort if the risk cannot be eliminated. So for working at eye level eye protection will always be required. For handling conduit suitable gloves. Striking anything with a hammer calls for a minimum of eye protection and probaly gloves.

    I would say for the Level 3 students at least once a week to be made to wear in the workshop all 5 pieces of PPE to get them used and comfortable wearing  as they will be required to do this on building sites. No shorts, no radios and no wearing of headphones or ear buds as they are not allowed to do this on most sites. They will moan and groan but this is what you have to do on site so just get on with it as it is part of your education.

    JP

  • Hello John:

    Regarding eye protection there is another factor where microscopes are concerned - is the actual eye pieces clean?  - I saw a lot of "pink eye" infections during my working life.

    Peter Brooks

    Palm Bay Florida USA 

  • Hello John:

    There are work situations where the product(s) have to be protected from the students.

    When one hand assembles microcircuits, one usually has to wear a grounded connected wrist strap, to protect against ESD events.

    Peter Brooks

    Palm Bay Florida USA

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  • Hello John:

    There are work situations where the product(s) have to be protected from the students.

    When one hand assembles microcircuits, one usually has to wear a grounded connected wrist strap, to protect against ESD events.

    Peter Brooks

    Palm Bay Florida USA

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