Voltage Monitoring Relays - what delay?

There's been some talk recently of using voltage monitoring relays (e.g. https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/monitoring-relays/1026131 or https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/monitoring-relays/0122215), and a suitable contactor, to protect an installation against long duration overvoltages (so not brief surges, more like a single phase installation being fed something approaching 400V due to a broken N in the 3-phase distribution system).

I can see pros and cons to such an approach, but let's go with it for now for the sake of debate...

What I've noticed that all these devices seem to come with a programmable delay (sometimes overridden for large voltage errors, sometimes apparently not) which implies that the installation may have to withstand an overvoltage for some period of time - so the question is how long would we expect things to survive? I can see simple resistive heaters hanging on for a a fair fraction of a minute before overheating becomes catastrophic, filament lamps I suspect won't last anything like as long. What about electronics? or small single phase motors?

I suspect we're treading a fine line here, too short a delay and it'll be tripping out on the slightest glitch (next door's storage heaters switching on, or I suppose these days heat pumps, or a brief fault in some other installation connected to the same distribution system) which wouldn't be ideal even if the installation is only disconnected for a few seconds before being automatically restored. Too long and I presume the risk of damage increases. Where's the happy medium (is there one?)

  - Andy.

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  • The OV/UV thresholds and time delays presented in G98 and G99 would be a good start.

    If the installation has generation (including PV) that can operate in parallel with the grid, then to 'trip' the installation "inside" these limits is likely to contravene ESQCR and any connection agreement.

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  • The OV/UV thresholds and time delays presented in G98 and G99 would be a good start.

    If the installation has generation (including PV) that can operate in parallel with the grid, then to 'trip' the installation "inside" these limits is likely to contravene ESQCR and any connection agreement.

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  • For those not so familiar. the standards are freely available here G99

    And here G98

    The limits in question for connections at 230V are the same in both standards, but presented slightly differently.




    and

    Personally, I'd like to see a much faster trip time for things like 400V where 230 ought to be,  but that's my electronics background at work;

    Mike