Air source Heat Pumps and Diverted neutral currents

Hi I have been having a conversation around the requirements to fit an RCD on these circuits, it turns out it is a manufactures or appliance standard recommendation. It then occurred to me what out diverted neutral currents if the protective earth & neutral conductor (PEN) were to break.

If these units are fitted on a TN-C-S earthing system and the PEN conductor breaks the metal casing could become live as the earth conductor could end up carrying the neutral current.

The person touching the ground would be earthed and the current would flow through them, in this case an RCD would not function as it wouldn’t see the imbalance. I feel it should be considered its no different to having an electric vehicle charger and having a metal car. For that an Open PEN detection device is required.

Any thoughts on this point ?

Regards 

Daniel 

 

Parents
  • A few years ago a neighbour called me to ask if the electricity was off as nothing was working. A few quick tests showed he had no neutral and as far as I could see it was the recently connected smart meter where the neutral was lost. A call to SPEN emergency number and they came out quickly and found the neural connection in the smart meter was loose. The neighbours energy supplier would not talk to the SPEN engineer as he was not the customer so it never got reported. I wrote a couple of letters for the neighbour to the energy supplier CEO which resulted in a £50 refund for him. 

    Speaking to a SPEN manager a year later he said it should have been reported and the installer put under supervision and other installs checked. 

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  • A few years ago a neighbour called me to ask if the electricity was off as nothing was working. A few quick tests showed he had no neutral and as far as I could see it was the recently connected smart meter where the neutral was lost. A call to SPEN emergency number and they came out quickly and found the neural connection in the smart meter was loose. The neighbours energy supplier would not talk to the SPEN engineer as he was not the customer so it never got reported. I wrote a couple of letters for the neighbour to the energy supplier CEO which resulted in a £50 refund for him. 

    Speaking to a SPEN manager a year later he said it should have been reported and the installer put under supervision and other installs checked. 

Children
  • the neural connection in the smart meter was loose.

    Certainly not good (a fire risk if nothing else) but at least in the UK that would certainly be after the N-PE split in the cut-out, so at least the earthing system didn't become hazardous live, as can happen with a true PEN fault.

      - Andy.