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Ai and 7671

lyledunn

When tutoring 2391, it is part of my role to encourage candidates to use 7671 and GN3 as much as possible. Those are the only printed documents permitted in the online exam. During practical training, the lads are encouraged to collaborate with each other and use said documents to check test results and design data. I note many just defer to their smart phone to access even rather obtuse data buried in the bowels of 7671. 
As much as an old timer like me likes his books, I think it is time that we acknowledge that smart phones will be the primary data source for most operatives. The exam bodies would do better to address the application of data rather than the simple ability to access it.

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    Personally I think there are two separate questions in this.

    Should students be allowed to use electronic copies of the regulations. Personally I think yes, if we learn how to search the regulations effectively there is a better chance in the real world of finding rules that apply to a sittuation, ideally this would be an AI based search that could only look at current regulations and other documents. It would be great if the rules, relevant guidance notes and articles from the likes of beama all came up in a single search.

    I can see that using electronic documents does also create a security issue with preventing cheating, but it wouldn't be that expensive to provide dedicated devices for viewing the regs that don't have internet access during the exam.

    Agreed that using AI to search generally available information is risky if not backed by other checks with the actual regulations. But electricians can be taught how to use it more safely, ask it to quote regulation numbers, restrict the search to current version of BS7671 only, ask for detailed cable calculations to be shown etc. Then look at the actual regs for a final check.

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    I am halfway through a 2391 course. It is spread over six weeks, one day per week. I set homework every week and advise candidates to use 7671 and GN3 as much as possible in attending to it. Eleven candidates. I asked them yesterday if they are using Ai. Every single one has used it in some way in their efforts. 
    It is my view that electrical installation training should embrace Ai at every opportunity. However, I believe that as long as certain parties benefit financially from books and online multiple choice exams that require candidates to rummage through them in search of an answer buried in their pages, I doubt much will change. 

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    lyledunn said:
    Every single one has used it in some way in their efforts.

    What is the age range please?

  • 0 in reply to lyledunn

    I did have to walk both my children through properly using an index of a book during their time at high school.

    I think that's an indicator of what   is saying in this discussion.

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