Is the interconnecting cable between outdoor and indoor AC units classed as a control cable or power cable?
Is the interconnecting cable between outdoor and indoor AC units classed as a control cable or power cable?
Could be either ... or both.
It's certainly part of 'machinery' as defined in the Supply of Machinery (Safety) Regulations, and therefore not completely in the scope of BS 7671 ...
I would say that in most circumstances it is a power cable. Since it carries mains voltage to operate the compressor or condensing unit fan.
The only likely exception is when there is already a mains voltage power supply to both the indoor and the outdoor units, and any interconnection between the two is only for control purposes such as thermostatic control.
I would agree
Not sure about that - there is no reason a competent person cannot install to the relevant machinery standard by following well written maker's instructions, which may need you to do things that are not be as simple as BS7671.
Actually we already see this with things like heating controller wiring and alarms and so on, where '7671 does not really cover the situation. As a very noddy example how would you test a Honeywell Y plan boiler installation to BS7671 ? Concepts like Zs go out of the window with 3 way valves stalled in mid position with diodes across micro-switches.Usually, as the boiler is considered an appliance, so you don't test the installation components, just the whole thing.
I suppose there is rather a precedent for the HVAC industry using SY ... even though many manufacturers labelling it as a control cable (although others have claimed at least part BS compliance).
should comply with BS or harmonised standards
OR ... IEC or the appropriate standard of another country (133.1.1) OR the designer confirms that it provides at least the same degree of safety (133.1.3) - so it's not quite a simple yes/no.
Of course there's nothing stopping a control/auxiliary circuit running at full mains voltage (e.g. see fig 55.1)
- Andy.
I believe it should be in scope of BS7671, as someone needs to certify it on install as compliant
Compliant with what? I agree with Graham, there seems little doubt that the cable is connecting two parts of a machine.
Let's suppose that your friendly local sparks installs a new circuit which terminates in an isolator. He (or she) notifies the new circuit to building control. That is BS 7671 sorted.
Householder then pops down to Screwfix and wires in the ACU. There may be a requirement to notify under another part of the building regulations, but that is not what we are talking about here.
Indeed, plenty of thermostats, fan controllers, lamp dimmers and so on are a kind of "mains level" logic
Mike.
how is the cable size calculated where these type of control cables have very little data to enable calcs? in industrial/ commercial applications some indoor units fed from the Outdoor are large and require considerable amps to run multiple fans/ pumps?
The manufacturer has already done it.
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