Looking to understand a ramp test result

I visited a customer today who had an RCD tripping after a water spill on a hot plate.

It was a single RCD protecting the entire installation, Hager type AC, been trying to persuade her to change the board for a few years.


The bit that I find strange is that the RCD was seeing 15.9mA of earth leakage, measured with clamp meter across tails. RCD also tripped in 133mS with 30mA test from a socket.

I then did a ramp test on both 180 and 0 degrees, from a socket with the installation powered, expecting a very low trip current due to existing high leakage, but it tripped at 21mA on both directions. Either I missed something or there is something I don't understand about the RCD testing setup? The one thing I can see with hindsight is that I didn't repeat the tests with the MCB's switched off.

So why would the ramp have gone so high before tripping? This is on a TT earth with Zs @ DB of 17.5 ohms. Currently installations insulation resistance is only 0.47 M Ohms ar 250V, line / neutral joined to earth. I hope this improves as the hob dries out.

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  • Hello

    The answer may lie partly in the accuracy / tolerances of the measurements as they have been done with different instruments especially if you clamp meter is operating at the bottom of its range.  Some clamp meters are better than others and there will also be a tolerance on your RCD tester. Some clamp meters also pick up currents in adjacent wiring. As you say a test with all MCBs off so you are just looking at more defined test conditions would tell you more.

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  • Hello

    The answer may lie partly in the accuracy / tolerances of the measurements as they have been done with different instruments especially if you clamp meter is operating at the bottom of its range.  Some clamp meters are better than others and there will also be a tolerance on your RCD tester. Some clamp meters also pick up currents in adjacent wiring. As you say a test with all MCBs off so you are just looking at more defined test conditions would tell you more.

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