Bathroom appliance help please

Hi guys just after a bit of advice here please

Customer wants to build a full height cupboard and the bottom of the bath and put a washing machine and tumble dryer in it. It will have a door on the cupboard.

How would regs apply to this ? I can make it 3 x flex outlets and sfs outside the bathroom if need be rather than sockets.

The appliances would technically be within 600mm from the edge of the bath but inside a cupboard so couldn't remember if that then meant zones did not apply 

Thank you for any help here

Parents
  • Doors (together with walls, floors, fixed partitions etc.) do count 'where those effectively limit the extent of the location' - and traditionally the airing cupboard door was considered effective - otherwise the traditional DP switch for the immersion heater wouldn't have been been possible.

    I would be a little careful here.

    In the CENELEC Harmonized Document HD 60364-7-701 that is likely to make its way into BS 7671 at the next version, the zones extend 60 mm into walls and partitions etc. surrounding the zones.

  • Also worth remembering that In countries like Germany, Type AC RCDs and RCBOs (which only detect pure sinusoidal AC fault currents) were officially deprecated for general human protection against electrical shocks in 1987.  Thus can we really use the full extent of Harmonized Document in the UK or do we just interpret and implement the intent of said Harmonized Document?

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  • Also worth remembering that In countries like Germany, Type AC RCDs and RCBOs (which only detect pure sinusoidal AC fault currents) were officially deprecated for general human protection against electrical shocks in 1987.  Thus can we really use the full extent of Harmonized Document in the UK or do we just interpret and implement the intent of said Harmonized Document?

Children
  • Maybe but be carfeul with that - it does not mean that is what is installed, even now there are plenty of flats in Berlin that still have the Neozed/ Diazed  bottle fuses on a 16 or 32A 3 phase supply and no RCD at all. One of the unintended consequences of over regulating who is allowed to do rewires and upgrades is that it makes things more expensive and then it tends not to actually happen.

    Mike