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A installation in macedonia a non EU country

Taken by a colleague showing live bus bars in distribution boards and from transformer on a live working installation!

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  • Interesting but not unusual!


    Most likely designed back in the day when everything did not have to be idiot-proof, simply because unlike today, an idiot would not have been allowed anywhere near such equipment.

    Back at a place where I used to work, we were classed as a 'generator' and had our own private 1 MW supply from 11KV downwards. I remember our 1940-vintage substation looking somewhat similar.

    The place was built as a shadow factory at the beginning of WW2 and it was full of interesting yet potentially lethal gear like that.

    Thanks for the memory!
  • Looks to be a decent installation. When I started here (Switzerland) nearly 20 years ago there were still some fully open bus bar substations in the factory. These had the three phases stacked away from the wall with the neutral in front to give some protection. There were tales of those who would stand on a rubber mat and check the temperature of the bus bars with the back of a finger.


    Red, Green and Yellow for the phases is the same as the Chinese.


    Best regards

    Roger
  • Also the color code used in Russia and countries of former USSR/eastern bloc
  • Not even out of reach!
  • I'm sure it is out of reach, in that no-one will  touch it, and the gap they will leave will be greater than you would put a guard.

    Such installations have a similar thing to the hand rail effect -


    If there is a hand rail folk come up to the edge of the drop, and lean on it.

    If there is no hand rail, everyone keeps sensibly back from the edge.

    A wobbly rail is worse than none as  folk try to lean on it without  realizing the danger

     I wonder if the fire suppression pipes wire installed with the power already on.



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     I wonder if the fire suppression pipes wire installed with the power already on.


    Yet it appears that the RH bus triple bars appear to be fully insulated.


    Regards


    BOD
  • Don't be fooled Eastern European practice is just to paint the bars thats the only insulation they've got a bit of pink yellow or green paint
  • I'm wondering on the system and voltage. Can't be overly high (no more than a couple of kv at best, due to the arrangement of the busbars passing through the wall) but there's no apparent neutral? Do they use a delta system in large factories for the loads, with an earthed but not distributed neutral, like the UK's HV network?
  • I would guess that it's 380-415V distribution after the transformer. If you look closely at the picture there is a 4th busbar in white/silver which could be the neutral.

    Best regards

    Roger