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Islanding mode earthing requirements with PME supply to inverter in garage

I have the following situation, in my own house I might add:
TN-C-S single phase PME supply
50A B curve MCB in main distribution board feeds 10mm2 3C (one core used as CPC), SWA cable going to garage ~5m away from the house
In the detached garage there is a consumer unit feeding a 32A type B RCBO for an EV charger and a 32A type A rcbo for an inverter, both 30mA
EV charger has an open PEN detection relay
(I know about the selectivity issue here with the MCB but it's determined not a safety issue, short circuit unlikely. Sockets and lighting on separate 2.5mm supply)

Now the question is, if I want to enable the inverter to work in islanding mode, what earthing provisions do I need to add?
The house is detached and more than 30m away from other houses and metal street furniture
Ze from supply is 0.12 ohm, main fuse 100A
Inverter can perform N-E link and coordinate with changeover switch at incoming supply

Am I right in thinking that I should remain connected to supplies earth but add an earth rod? What impedance requirement should this earth rod have?
I think it's 200 ohm because the inverter is protected by a 30mA RCBO and in connected mode, the supply earth will be sufficient.
I also think the earth rod should be connected to the inverter directly (i.e. downsteam from the rcbo and not upstream) so that the RCD will be able to detect the leakage in islanding mode.

Thanks!

  • Doesn’t seem well thought out to be honest. This would mean I need to fuse down everything to 80A as the inverter is 16A rated to protect against a scenario that’s extremely unlikely and would likely be harmless anyway. Or somehow find a consumer unit rated 116A or higher… 

  • The house has been extended so the meter cupboard is right in the middle, can’t easily get a cable out. Do you think an information label would suffice in the meter cupboard?

    There are a few related issues here, including the fact that , for a PME system, there are minimum csa requirements for main bonding conductors. This really ought to apply to protective conductors connecting additional earth electrodes (although this all depends on how you read the requirements, it really doesn't matter when you think that the electrode is just another piece of metal connected to the ground, which, in connected mode does very little.

    The guidance to connect the consumer's earth electrode to the MET for electrical energy storage systems has been in place since 2017, although BS 7671 has recommended a supplementary earth electrode (connected to MET) for a substantial number of years.

    Overall, though, not easy without seeing the installation and considering copper-equivalent csa.


    Worth bearing in mind that future EICRs will consider the guidance in place,from IET as well as other guidance referred to by competent person certification schemes.

  • Minimum copper csa would be 10mm2, the same as the current bonding conductors

  • It’s going to be incredibly difficult to wire in a new cable to the MET. The house has been extended so the meter cupboard is right in the middle, can’t easily get a cable out.

    I don't see any great technical problem with connecting the electrode to the MET via the 10mm² c.p.c. in the submain - it's quite common to bond extraneous-conductive-parts to the earth bars in sub-boards,

    If running new cables to the intake position is a non-starter, I do wonder how you're going to make the connection between the inverter control system and the disconnect-from-the-grid contactor though. I suppose a wireless link plus a UPS and the intake might be an option, but I've never heard of it being done that way.

        - Andy.

  • This is a good point. I can get a cat 6 cable in which connects to the energy meter (alternative to CT coil) and that would leave me with 6 twisted signal pairs remaining. The inverter has the ability to send an ELV signal for coordinating islanding mode. I haven’t really thought about how this would be setup. Perhaps a contactor exists which opens when power is lost but to close it again, requires the ELV signal.

  • Minimum copper csa would be 10mm2, the same as the current bonding conductors

    Is that the case at the moment, 10 sq mm bonding between the garage and the house?

  • The inverter has the ability to send an ELV signal for coordinating islanding mode.

    The control system needs to do more than "send a signal" - what about failure modes (island mode isolator fails to open or close, same with N-E bond relay)?

    This is why a G99 notification is usually required from the DNO for this type of functionality.

    It's not trivial to do, and consequences of something going wrong are either breach of legislation, or a whole host of electrical safety issues which can be lethal.

  • The garage has no extraneous conductive parts, the cpc going to it is 10mm2. I meant the gas and water pipes are bonded with 10mm2 (but technically this is no longer necassary since they have plastic incomer pipes).

  • The inverter has G98 and G99 approval, it's a sunsynk 3.6kW. I know after the grid comes back online it waits a while and does it's checks + gets the timing and order of actions correct so it can't be in a dangerous situation. I will definitely review all of the manual beforehand.

    To be honest, I will probably end up not going with the earth rod idea and just having a single RCD protected socket at the EPS output as it's a lot easier.

  • To be honest, I will probably end up not going with the earth rod idea and just having a single RCD protected socket at the EPS output as it's a lot easier.

    How is the socket-outlet earth maintained if the DNO are working on the system and cut the supply cable? The guidance is not to have a "floating" socket-outlet in island mode - the reasons are stated in the Code of Practice for Electrical Energy Storage Systems.