BS7671:2018:Amendment 2:2022 Electrical Installation Certificate Schedule of Inspections.

In the new edition of BS7671 the Electrical Installation Certificate Schedule of Inspections covers four pages from page 515 to page 518, on the certificates I use it gets condensed to two pages of tick boxes.

Every time I do a EIC or EICR it feels like I am doing a multiple choice exam and sometimes I have to do several in a day.

I have had a look at the downloadable IET certificates, I nearly missed the EIC Schedule of Inspections it is so brief, is this all that is actually required?

electrical.theiet.org/.../bs7671-eic.pdf

  • I see what you mean, but there is also the checklist on p. 515. It would seem wise to keep a copy even if it is not given to the customer.

  • In my view the tick box could be dropped completely on the EIC, after all, it’s just a certificate confirming compliance with BS7671.

  • The latest domestic EICR Schedule of Inspections in the Trimble NAPIT Fast Test certification, plenty of boxes to check.

    I don’t know why, I ended up with two versions of the same report yesterday, an Amendment 1 version and a Amendment 2 version presented in different formats, but with all the same entries I made.

    I emailed and posted the Amd 1 version to the customer yesterday, now I have found the Amd 2 version in the folder on my desktop, so I am sending that as well.

    There is something on there that I may start a different discussion about, to try and keep things relevant, spot the new entry. 

  • I will just point out that Domestic EICR covers thirteen pages, there’s a cover page then another twelve pages that I completed.

    You may appreciate from that why I am suffering Electrical Certificate fatigue, there’s just too much on them for what they are trying to convey, I don’t believe that the majority of customers ever read them past where it says Satisfactory.

    A customer laughed at me on Wednesday, most jobs I try to complete the certification by hand and give it to the customer before leaving the job, so I was on my knees in his hallway after installing a complete new shower circuit and was leaning on my hop up completing a four page hand written certificate on a NCR pad.

    As I rattled through the certificate and schedule I read out what I was being asked to enter, as I worked my way down the schedule of inspections I heard him laugh and then say “*** hell”.

    I have exactly the same thoughts!

  • I now have the Fast Test app on my new IPad, it only has the most recent certificates available on it, presumably due to the Amd 2 update this week, something else to try whilst sitting on my hop up in a customers home, but I might have to print and post them a copy when I get home rather than just handing them a copy before I leave.

  • My views entirely. It serves no useful purpose. RECI certs (single page) are a good example of how condensed the information really could be. All that is needed is a declaration that the works meet the Standard, surely.

  • There are two bits to this, but I do agree that the forms seem to have become very long, and have lots of tick boxes that the average domestic electrician will probably never use.

    The second point is that "software Authors" ALWAYS suffer from serious feature creep, adding loads of stuff that is not necessary or useful. I wonder if your new software has all the boxes filled in with N/A, ready for you to just change the ones you need? I thought not! The features that would be useful, such as a direct interface to the MFT are rarely there, although I think that Megger are trying this out. For measurements one should select a circuit line, and then the software / MFT runs through all the tests, telling one what to do each time. The results would go straight into the form, with a pass / fail. So simple, yet we still need a pen or notebook or something! Getting these numbers wrong one way or another is the primary reason for certificate / report failure.