Videos of EICRs on Youtube

Afraid that I hadn't the patience to sit through them.

Property 1 looked well cared for and I would be happy to live there. C3 for the lack of RCDs. Easily remedied by a change of CU. I don't know why the sparks was so confused by the old FCUs. I would keep them and put sockets on.

Property 2 was a dump. I see two choices after the first few minutes: (1) withdraw gracefully and don't submit a bill; (2) advise a complete rewire on the basis that it may be cheaper than completing an EICR. Certainly easier!

One of the the things you have to remember is that not all electricians are old enough to have installed domestic electrical installations without RCD protection, as I am.

It was 2008 when most of the requirements for RCD protection in domestic installations were introduced, thirteen years ago, so most electricians aged thirty or under have never installed domestic installations without RCD protection, so they do not approach the EICR with the view that “It was okay in the 1990’s, so it must be okay now” what they see is an obsolete installation that does not comply the current requirements.

As the EICR requires the inspector, such as the guys from Artisan who are all a lot younger than us being in their twenties and thirties, to compare the installation with the current requirements of BS7671 they are completely correct in believing what they see, it is an obsolete installation that does not comply the current requirements, the only question really is if it is dangerous and how to determine the risks along with the appropriate codes, which is something they should have been taught whilst attending their 18th Edition courses.

I watched a couple of videos by the other guy, I don’t know if I can face watching another, at least the Artisan videos are watchable even if I raise an eyebrow occasionally.

It’s fifty five years since the requirement for lighting circuits to be earthed was introduced in 1966, there is not a working electrician under the age of seventy who has installed a compliant lighting circuit without a CPC, but there’s still people arguing that those old lighting circuits are compliant because they were installed around sixty years ago.

Just how long is the period that needs to elapse before people will accept change?

there is not a working electrician under the age of seventy who has installed a compliant lighting circuit without a CPC, but there’s still people arguing that those old lighting circuits are compliant because they were installed around sixty years ago.

Not entirely correct. I have installed ELV garden lights supplied via HOFR cabling without a cpc

Legh

Legh 

Same as Chris, there is no way I'm going to clamber through the whole of those youtube videos without a financial incentive. From what I've seen, both installations are basic. In both cases I would recommend updating on the basis that these installations are being used to generate income for the owner and would need to be in tip top condition as a duty of care to the prospective tenents.

Legh 

Youtube? Is that something new?

Z.

Legh Richardson: 
 

there is not a working electrician under the age of seventy who has installed a compliant lighting circuit without a CPC, but there’s still people arguing that those old lighting circuits are compliant because they were installed around sixty years ago.

Not entirely correct. I have installed ELV garden lights supplied via HOFR cabling without a cpc

Legh

Legh 

Which side of seventy are you?

Ref. Artisan, video one. I like this electrician. He is very much like me, practical, down to earth, thorough and logical. He did a good job and I agree with his findings. He seems to be experienced.

As the property is to be let, R.C.D. protection is essential for all circuits. R.C.B.O.s will afford safe and reliable supplies.

If this was my home I would be happy to use the installation as it is. I would though eventually upgrade to an R.C.B.O. consumer unit.

I always take out the fuse from fused connection units that supply gas boilers to see if it is a 3 or 5 Amp fuse. I do not want to find a 13 Amp fuse.

Z.

Sparkingchip: 
 

Legh Richardson: 
 

there is not a working electrician under the age of seventy who has installed a compliant lighting circuit without a CPC, but there’s still people arguing that those old lighting circuits are compliant because they were installed around sixty years ago.

Not entirely correct. I have installed ELV garden lights supplied via HOFR cabling without a cpc

Legh

Legh 

 

Which side of seventy are you?

This IMO replying/quoting environment lacks style and flexiblilty. Back to the query.

I'm on the right side. I'll leave it up to you to decide whether that translates to up or down.

Legh

I was thinking that quoting quotes of quotes of quotes doesn’t really cut it.